Message from @Eccles

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2020-02-18 14:30:34 UTC  

Yeah and Windows 10 can install on anyway software as old as it release at least

2020-02-18 14:30:35 UTC  

Not the case with Windows 10

2020-02-18 14:30:53 UTC  

That's a carefully worded sentence, Farrongoth

2020-02-18 14:30:58 UTC  

You can install windows 10 on a Raspberry PI

2020-02-18 14:31:19 UTC  

It's carefully worded cos I don't know if you can install on 10 year old hardware

2020-02-18 14:31:29 UTC  

You could, Farrongoth

2020-02-18 14:31:32 UTC  

I would say yes so long yo can get at least 4GB of RAM

2020-02-18 14:31:38 UTC  

Ram is not relevent

2020-02-18 14:33:02 UTC  

If anything, Apple is better than Microsoft on this score

2020-02-18 14:33:06 UTC  

Well that's the only thing that would stop windows 10 install on older hardware with the exception of some really niche hardware.

Windows 10 doesn't ship with drivers it tends to download and install as needed

2020-02-18 14:33:15 UTC  

Apple have a very clear set of expectations

2020-02-18 14:33:38 UTC  

Their OS can be installed on a defined range of devices,a nd be upgraded within a define window

2020-02-18 14:33:51 UTC  

> If anything, Apple is better than Microsoft on this score
Apple have been proven multiple times to slow down old OS. and even new OS on old hardware

2020-02-18 14:34:00 UTC  

Yes

2020-02-18 14:34:12 UTC  

Which is better than allowing people to install an OS, then killing it when you release a feature update

2020-02-18 14:34:15 UTC  

Which is what Microsoft do

2020-02-18 14:34:33 UTC  

No such evidence exists for Microsoft and they have a larger market share, so how exactly are the worse than Apple

2020-02-18 14:34:38 UTC  

No they don't

2020-02-18 14:34:41 UTC  

Yes they do

2020-02-18 14:35:20 UTC  

The only time microsoft have broken hardware compatibility is when they genuinely fucked up an update

2020-02-18 14:35:25 UTC  

nope

2020-02-18 14:35:35 UTC  

Okay

2020-02-18 14:35:49 UTC  

I'm sorry, farrongoth, i'm not trying to be difficult here, but what you're saying just isn't true

2020-02-18 14:35:57 UTC  

@Raptorian UEFI was just a failure

2020-02-18 14:36:05 UTC  

With each feature update, they retire hardware support

2020-02-18 14:36:26 UTC  

There are clear and obvious reasons for doing so

2020-02-18 14:36:28 UTC  

How old are we talking?

2020-02-18 14:36:41 UTC  

typically older than 5 years

2020-02-18 14:37:06 UTC  

I pretty sure I could build a PC using 10 year old parts and install windows 10 and it'll be fine for standard use, probably not games but standard use

2020-02-18 14:37:19 UTC  

and i'm pretty sure you'd hit minefields

2020-02-18 14:37:38 UTC  

Socialists:-
Step 1) kill all the billionaires
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Step 3) profit!
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2020-02-18 14:37:40 UTC  

nevertheless, the problem is with the feature updates - the CORRECT thing to do would be a more formal compatibility check

2020-02-18 14:37:47 UTC  

and if not compatible, DONT upgrade

2020-02-18 14:37:49 UTC  

whereas

2020-02-18 14:37:53 UTC  

Well the only minefield would be me download 64-bit windows 10 and not 32-bit and I've used a 32-bit CPU

2020-02-18 14:38:01 UTC  

what ACTUALLY happens, it installs blindly, fucks up, reverts, rinse repeat

2020-02-18 14:38:28 UTC  

which is essentially a deployment failure, but they don't care because it's a tiny % of obsolete hardware they don't care about anyway

2020-02-18 14:38:35 UTC  

which is why i said it's not unreasonable, just badly executed

2020-02-18 14:38:59 UTC  

I've had that issue, but that's usually specific update which is back to my original point the only time they've done that is when they've genuinely fucked up and they tend to fix it in the next update

2020-02-18 14:39:11 UTC  

it's the feature updates, essentialy the "service packs"

2020-02-18 14:40:11 UTC  

I hate features removed from UI