Message from @Puggums

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2020-02-18 23:28:08 UTC  

you realise the doctors trade union deliberately suppressed the number of doctor training places to put pressure on the government improve wages and conditions in negotiations, right?

2020-02-18 23:28:43 UTC  

we also experience brain drain to aus and the like

2020-02-18 23:28:45 UTC  

"Entry requirements for nursing degree courses vary because each university sets its own entry criteria, but you are likely to need at least two (usually three) A-levels, Highers, or equivalent qualifications at Level 3, plus supporting GCSEs including English, maths, and a science (usually biology or human biology)."

2020-02-18 23:28:52 UTC  

Yes, you need a degree to become a fully trained nurse

2020-02-18 23:29:09 UTC  

i have a friend who was a nurse, he basically just walked in

2020-02-18 23:29:25 UTC  

theres different levels of nurse you can be

2020-02-18 23:29:31 UTC  

like all care work

2020-02-18 23:29:37 UTC  

Aye

2020-02-18 23:29:42 UTC  

dont need a degree for private care work either

2020-02-18 23:29:48 UTC  

They were grumblign about social care on the radio on my drive home tonight

2020-02-18 23:30:02 UTC  

So expect boris to capitulate on social carers coming into the country

2020-02-18 23:30:14 UTC  

care work pays pretty well tbf

2020-02-18 23:30:23 UTC  

uhh, on what planet?

2020-02-18 23:30:33 UTC  

theres a lot of it around where i live

2020-02-18 23:30:42 UTC  

totally solid

2020-02-18 23:30:45 UTC  

private care work i mean

2020-02-18 23:30:47 UTC  

good friend of mine does social care work, it pays not much more than minimum wage, and he doesn't even get paid for the travel

2020-02-18 23:31:10 UTC  

given that he does about a dozen 15 minute visits a day, that's awful

2020-02-18 23:31:23 UTC  

social care is fucking borked

2020-02-18 23:31:29 UTC  

it needs rolling into the NHS and doing properly

2020-02-18 23:31:34 UTC  

our anecdotes are opposites so not much i can say

2020-02-18 23:31:36 UTC  

otherwise the NHS itself will be forever fucked

2020-02-18 23:31:54 UTC  

It attracts foreign labour because it's so badly paid

2020-02-18 23:32:24 UTC  

well i think its mroe a case of nations dont want to work that low

2020-02-18 23:32:29 UTC  

that foreigners want to

2020-02-18 23:32:32 UTC  

nonsense

2020-02-18 23:32:42 UTC  

carers and nurses used to be well respected and well paid

2020-02-18 23:32:43 UTC  

nationals* than*

2020-02-18 23:33:06 UTC  

i was jsut disagreeing with the word "attracts"

2020-02-18 23:33:09 UTC  

then they closed all the local/convalescence hospitals, privatised all the nursing homes and social care

2020-02-18 23:33:46 UTC  

It was just totally inappropriate attempt to shoehorn "muhhfreemarket!" into healthcare with devestating consequences

2020-02-18 23:34:13 UTC  

people should be allowed to choose their healthcare

2020-02-18 23:34:30 UTC  

they can

2020-02-18 23:34:47 UTC  

apparently not if your a bigot then you can be refused

2020-02-18 23:35:20 UTC  

you think shop keepers and services providers don't have a right to refuse service to abusive customers?

2020-02-18 23:35:52 UTC  

you think the US should have forced the christian bakers to bake the gay cake for the LGTB activists?

2020-02-18 23:50:08 UTC  

Heres the difference.

2020-02-18 23:50:24 UTC  

Ones a potential health risk. One hurts your feelings.

2020-02-18 23:56:12 UTC  

the policy did distinguish between essential and elective treatments

2020-02-18 23:59:37 UTC  

Here's the thing. If I cant walk without these pain pills. Is it essential? But my lifes not in danger though.

2020-02-19 00:00:14 UTC