Message from @Puggums

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2020-02-18 23:24:41 UTC  

no but ive heard people call it rascist

2020-02-18 23:24:49 UTC  

That includes; rape, assault etc

2020-02-18 23:25:19 UTC  

well this does come under the heading "completely unnecessary regulation with possibly malevolent intent"

2020-02-18 23:25:47 UTC  

We wouldnt need this if we werent condemned to carry the yoke of foreign occupation

2020-02-18 23:25:59 UTC  

once people are used to the idea of abusive people being refused they can then change the definition of what counts as abuse

2020-02-18 23:26:19 UTC  

thats a slippery slope basically

2020-02-18 23:26:22 UTC  

well it'll continue for a while yet because the government haven't yet started to (and probably won't) resolve the staffing shortage in the NHS

2020-02-18 23:26:32 UTC  

its impossible

2020-02-18 23:26:39 UTC  

socialism doesnt work

2020-02-18 23:26:51 UTC  

How is this socialism

2020-02-18 23:26:52 UTC  

the nhs will never be fully staffed or fully funded

2020-02-18 23:27:27 UTC  

it doesn't need to rely on foreign workers if you actually provide adequate training places to uk doctors, and dont' require fucking degree qualificiations to be a nurse

2020-02-18 23:27:46 UTC  

We ruled 25% of the world, we dont need assistance

2020-02-18 23:27:58 UTC  

you dont need a degree to be a nurse

2020-02-18 23:28:08 UTC  

you realise the doctors trade union deliberately suppressed the number of doctor training places to put pressure on the government improve wages and conditions in negotiations, right?

2020-02-18 23:28:43 UTC  

we also experience brain drain to aus and the like

2020-02-18 23:28:45 UTC  

"Entry requirements for nursing degree courses vary because each university sets its own entry criteria, but you are likely to need at least two (usually three) A-levels, Highers, or equivalent qualifications at Level 3, plus supporting GCSEs including English, maths, and a science (usually biology or human biology)."

2020-02-18 23:28:52 UTC  

Yes, you need a degree to become a fully trained nurse

2020-02-18 23:29:09 UTC  

i have a friend who was a nurse, he basically just walked in

2020-02-18 23:29:25 UTC  

theres different levels of nurse you can be

2020-02-18 23:29:31 UTC  

like all care work

2020-02-18 23:29:37 UTC  

Aye

2020-02-18 23:29:42 UTC  

dont need a degree for private care work either

2020-02-18 23:29:48 UTC  

They were grumblign about social care on the radio on my drive home tonight

2020-02-18 23:30:02 UTC  

So expect boris to capitulate on social carers coming into the country

2020-02-18 23:30:14 UTC  

care work pays pretty well tbf

2020-02-18 23:30:23 UTC  

uhh, on what planet?

2020-02-18 23:30:33 UTC  

theres a lot of it around where i live

2020-02-18 23:30:42 UTC  

totally solid

2020-02-18 23:30:45 UTC  

private care work i mean

2020-02-18 23:30:47 UTC  

good friend of mine does social care work, it pays not much more than minimum wage, and he doesn't even get paid for the travel

2020-02-18 23:31:10 UTC  

given that he does about a dozen 15 minute visits a day, that's awful

2020-02-18 23:31:23 UTC  

social care is fucking borked

2020-02-18 23:31:29 UTC  

it needs rolling into the NHS and doing properly

2020-02-18 23:31:34 UTC  

our anecdotes are opposites so not much i can say

2020-02-18 23:31:36 UTC  

otherwise the NHS itself will be forever fucked

2020-02-18 23:31:54 UTC  

It attracts foreign labour because it's so badly paid

2020-02-18 23:32:24 UTC  

well i think its mroe a case of nations dont want to work that low

2020-02-18 23:32:29 UTC  

that foreigners want to

2020-02-18 23:32:32 UTC  

nonsense

2020-02-18 23:32:42 UTC  

carers and nurses used to be well respected and well paid