Message from @Wizard_of_The_West

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2020-02-24 18:33:53 UTC  

Peak optics and spot on with critical arguments for closed borders and immigration moratorium

2020-02-24 20:37:47 UTC  

> What the fuck do they want reparations for?
@Monstrous Moonshine FREE SHIT! YIPPIE WIPPIE!

2020-02-24 22:03:12 UTC  

Oh boy, this will take some time to get through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCkyWBPaTC8

2020-02-24 22:08:28 UTC  

Lmao I don’t think actual Nazis deny hitler was socialist. I think only normal socialists and communists do. Actual Nazis dislike capitalism, there is national capitalism which is Nazism that’s capitalism though.

2020-02-24 22:09:24 UTC  

Still the difference should be stated. Because even if you dislike both of them, I would assume you would want to understand their position. Or at the very least understand your enemy

2020-02-24 22:11:23 UTC  

Well clearly a bunch of Nazis do deny that Hitler was a socialist

2020-02-24 22:11:52 UTC  

I thought he was responding to socialists @ETBrooD

2020-02-24 22:12:12 UTC  

He's responding to anyone who tries to refute his thesis.

2020-02-24 22:12:30 UTC  

Which are socialists 😐

2020-02-24 22:12:40 UTC  

Mainly, but not exclusively.

2020-02-24 22:12:56 UTC  

Oh, so who else then?

2020-02-24 22:13:37 UTC  

For example Nazis, or just regular normies, or historians, and many more.

2020-02-24 22:14:11 UTC  

“For example, Nazis...” so socialists <:comfort:592107824826417204>

2020-02-24 22:15:24 UTC  

Well, yeah

2020-02-24 22:15:49 UTC  

Just that they're a subgroup of the socialists who disagree with him. I bet a bunch of Nazis do agree with him.

2020-02-24 22:15:51 UTC  

I’m just pulling your leg

2020-02-24 22:16:06 UTC  

Now I'm salty.

2020-02-24 22:16:54 UTC  

Btw if this video is too long, he's made a bunch of others before, laying out his argument.

2020-02-24 22:40:41 UTC  

Yeah Stormfags have been REEEEing in TIK's comments since his first video on Hitler's socialism...

2020-02-24 22:55:16 UTC  

I honestly don’t believe it, I don’t think someone that’s in that side would care about Muh capitalism vs socialism. Or maybe it was a criticism on the fact that Hitler isn’t socialist because he doesn’t buy in their ideology rather than economic doctrine. Like I don’t believe people would deny his economic policies were socialist

2020-02-24 22:59:24 UTC  

They would if they can't accept that they share a common thing with Hitler.

2020-02-24 22:59:40 UTC  

Hitler drank water meme exists for a reason

2020-02-24 23:00:23 UTC  

It's all about propaganda. Of you can make it a facism vs socialism argument facism looks less awful. I mean the commies do the same thing by calling themselves anti-fascist. Basically they're the top contenders in the horrible idea market.

2020-02-24 23:02:15 UTC  

I mean, the only reason I say “capitalism and communism are the same side of the coin!” Is simply to point out the retarded logic of horseshoe theory. “Hur dur nazis had a economic policy kinda sorta like USSR lmao they’re the same”

2020-02-24 23:03:09 UTC  

And the thing is that classical liberals most definitely play the same game as the communists and fascists then. After all, they clearly say they’re against fascism, and that antifa are the real fascists

2020-02-24 23:04:04 UTC  

I’m not a “fascist” so I don’t have a dog in this fight, I simply hate the retarded horseshoe logic of “ALL OF MY ENEMEIES ARE THE EXACT SAME ROFL!!11”

2020-02-24 23:04:12 UTC  

@snake Give them a taste of their own medicine

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680587502918041623/681637533595336718/8ck1toin3si41.png

2020-02-24 23:04:25 UTC  
2020-02-24 23:05:22 UTC  

For a group based on “nuance”, they lack it here.

2020-02-24 23:08:35 UTC  

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2017/08/16/mccain-romney-rubio-join-republicans-antifa-club/
> McCain, Romney, and Rubio Join the Republicans for Antifa Club

2020-02-24 23:10:13 UTC  

@snake One of the reasons why some Nazis disagree with TIK so vehemently is because they don't want to believe that their glorious Fuhrer was wrong on something fundamental to his ideology. TIK steelmans, then deconstructs, and finally criticizes Hitler's idea of the "shrinking markets".

2020-02-24 23:12:30 UTC  

Maybe that’s the case, Idk I’m not a hitleritie. But even if I was, o.k. He was wrong on economics, surely that’s not why they like him right?

2020-02-24 23:12:32 UTC  

If the shrinking markets are wrong, then Hitler was wrong to fight the war.
But it goes much further than that. Nazis hate the Jews, that's fundamental to the ideology. And the reason why they hate the Jews is because they consider them "capitalist parasites". Therefore eliminating the Jews is a good thing in a Nazi's eyes. TIK poses a problem to the Nazis by explaining that capitalism is in fact the solution, not the problem. But Nazis can't have that, because they hate the Jews.

2020-02-24 23:13:11 UTC  

yeah that makes sense actually. Basically communism but the Jews are the rich that need to be eaten?

2020-02-24 23:13:17 UTC  

Yep, exactly.

2020-02-24 23:13:35 UTC  

To be more precise, in communism it's also the Jews, but not only the Jews.

2020-02-24 23:13:54 UTC  

Hitler on the other hand thought it was only the Jews. That's why his ideology was racial, unlike that of communism.

2020-02-24 23:20:27 UTC  

Hey, I haven’t been a lolbert in a while, can you explain what’s wrong with “profit is theft” please? @ETBrooD it’s not like I give a shit, I’m half tempted to say “yes, and?” Because idc about if it’s theft or not simply that it’s a better system

2020-02-24 23:21:12 UTC  

Uhm.. I mean

2020-02-24 23:24:59 UTC  

Is profit theft... well, the definition of 'theft' is that someone takes an item of value from someone else without their agreement, or something like that. It is possible to profit from others with their agreement, so profit cannot equate to theft.
Theft, however can turn a profit. So I guess it's a simple fallacy.

2020-02-24 23:25:57 UTC  

It is also possible to profit without anyone else being involved whatsoever. You can profit from your own work all by yourself.