Oh, so who else then?

For example Nazis, or just regular normies, or historians, and many more.

“For example, Nazis...” so socialists <:comfort:592107824826417204>

Well, yeah

Just that they're a subgroup of the socialists who disagree with him. I bet a bunch of Nazis do agree with him.

I’m just pulling your leg

Now I'm salty.

Btw if this video is too long, he's made a bunch of others before, laying out his argument.

Yeah Stormfags have been REEEEing in TIK's comments since his first video on Hitler's socialism...

I honestly don’t believe it, I don’t think someone that’s in that side would care about Muh capitalism vs socialism. Or maybe it was a criticism on the fact that Hitler isn’t socialist because he doesn’t buy in their ideology rather than economic doctrine. Like I don’t believe people would deny his economic policies were socialist

They would if they can't accept that they share a common thing with Hitler.

Hitler drank water meme exists for a reason

It's all about propaganda. Of you can make it a facism vs socialism argument facism looks less awful. I mean the commies do the same thing by calling themselves anti-fascist. Basically they're the top contenders in the horrible idea market.

I mean, the only reason I say “capitalism and communism are the same side of the coin!” Is simply to point out the retarded logic of horseshoe theory. “Hur dur nazis had a economic policy kinda sorta like USSR lmao they’re the same”

And the thing is that classical liberals most definitely play the same game as the communists and fascists then. After all, they clearly say they’re against fascism, and that antifa are the real fascists

I’m not a “fascist” so I don’t have a dog in this fight, I simply hate the retarded horseshoe logic of “ALL OF MY ENEMEIES ARE THE EXACT SAME ROFL!!11”

@snake Give them a taste of their own medicine

@Monstrous Moonshine yeah exactly

For a group based on “nuance”, they lack it here.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2017/08/16/mccain-romney-rubio-join-republicans-antifa-club/
> McCain, Romney, and Rubio Join the Republicans for Antifa Club

@snake One of the reasons why some Nazis disagree with TIK so vehemently is because they don't want to believe that their glorious Fuhrer was wrong on something fundamental to his ideology. TIK steelmans, then deconstructs, and finally criticizes Hitler's idea of the "shrinking markets".

Maybe that’s the case, Idk I’m not a hitleritie. But even if I was, o.k. He was wrong on economics, surely that’s not why they like him right?

If the shrinking markets are wrong, then Hitler was wrong to fight the war.
But it goes much further than that. Nazis hate the Jews, that's fundamental to the ideology. And the reason why they hate the Jews is because they consider them "capitalist parasites". Therefore eliminating the Jews is a good thing in a Nazi's eyes. TIK poses a problem to the Nazis by explaining that capitalism is in fact the solution, not the problem. But Nazis can't have that, because they hate the Jews.

yeah that makes sense actually. Basically communism but the Jews are the rich that need to be eaten?

Yep, exactly.

To be more precise, in communism it's also the Jews, but not only the Jews.

Hitler on the other hand thought it was only the Jews. That's why his ideology was racial, unlike that of communism.

Hey, I haven’t been a lolbert in a while, can you explain what’s wrong with “profit is theft” please? @ETBrooD it’s not like I give a shit, I’m half tempted to say “yes, and?” Because idc about if it’s theft or not simply that it’s a better system

Uhm.. I mean

Is profit theft... well, the definition of 'theft' is that someone takes an item of value from someone else without their agreement, or something like that. It is possible to profit from others with their agreement, so profit cannot equate to theft.
Theft, however can turn a profit. So I guess it's a simple fallacy.

It is also possible to profit without anyone else being involved whatsoever. You can profit from your own work all by yourself.

So very clearly profit is not theft in a number of ways.

TL;DR. Profit isn’t theft if it’s voluntary

**if**

Stealing for profit is clearly theft, so some forms of turning a profit are theft.

Not 'kinda sorta like the USSR' but basically different versions of the same ideal. In fact Hitler and Stalin stole ideas from each other. Because really putting fascism in the top right quadrant quadrant id just a meme because their economics don't fit.

Which again is where Ford's dumb meme misses the point. You guys both breathe! As though breathing was uncommon. Pointing out that specific and uncommon ideas are shared is the point.

What’s the same ideal? And what ideas did they still from each other, other than economics? @Jym

Socialism. I like Hayek's conception of simply calling them 'Russian Socialism' and 'German Socialism'. But political officers in the military was one thing they model after each other. There are also these funny accidental copies. Like Hitler's plan was to depopulate the Ukraine to gain control of the farmland but Stalin beat him to it with de-kulakization.

Yeah....I said *other* than economics. So socialism doesn’t count. And with Ukraine, Stalin killed them yeah but it was because of shitty policy, whereas the Germans did it on purpose.

You said they had the same **ideal** which they most definitely did not. The Nazi Ideal was one of a Third Reich for the German people to last a thousand years. It was a great nation or realm for the Germans and them only. They would inherit all of Eastern Europe also, to have the prefect master race. The soviets on the other hand wanted a global utopia, where there is no class, race, sex, state or even money. After a workers revolt against capitalists. These are pretty different my guy.

You can say “oh they had the same actions!” But you specifically said they had the same **ideal**. Also, other than economics, what ideas did they copy off each other?

The communists wanted to create a worker's utopia by having the workers seize the means of production.
Hitler wanted to create a race utopia by having the "Aryan race" seize the means of production.

Both is a form of socialism, just a different end goal, but the same fundamental idea.