since humans are social creatures we've also come to be accepting

because of that we will become the beautiful one's most likely

i just know where to draw the line

hmm well i think one of the biggest parts of any kind of war against drugs is to persecute those who use them, sometimes in untypical ways. Preventing public aid in healthcare of any kind would be one of the best ways to curtail the use of drugs indirectly. People who use drugs also tend to be on the poorer side and if they have to pay for their own mistakes with their own money theyll be a lot more scant in their use.

eeehhhh youd be surprised. but also yk i think social media is just as big of an issue and is used like the drugs as well. its really more that we keep putting a band-aid on the issue rather then actually examining the cause. in my opinion

also personally I think it depends on the substance, and whether you know that you can exercise some self-control. being self aware. I had a bad drinking habit for a bit and i realized how much i was damaging myself, and i was able to stop doing that to myself. just took some introspection

i dont think drugs should be legalized, and i do think people should have to pay for their mistakes. but I also sympathize with the atmosphere like i said earlier, that leads people to using these substances.

@Lucienne d'Anwyl

What problem? That the world is not perfect? I can agree that either of these socialist models address that problem but what they offer is exponentially worse.

mental defects and the like, cannot be simply solved @UnScottable

yea and for those cases a unique solution is needed, same for cases where for example, a person has genes that make them more likely to become addicted to alcohol. Its well known that these genes exist and certain ethnicities have them more often then others, and they are inherited.

@Jym you realize that just because they have seen problems with modern society it isnt just exclusively a problem with capitalism or how you personally nd defensively perceive capitalism yes? look to the modern day aristocracy who control all of the media all of the sources of information and vigorously repress those people who defy them, using their power of infkuence to hijack the supposedly democratic system in order to perpetuate their own power. That is a problem. There is a problem of corporations merging together and collaborating in monopolistic efforts. Corporations lobbying the government for laws which prevent rival companies from ever rising from the bottom, etc. etc.

Modern society isnt amazing and there are many problems in it, just because you personally dislike such ideologies does not mean that they do not have a point in their criticism of it

@Lucienne d'Anwyl

Again they recognize, as do I, that our world is imperfect. They offer "solutions" that are exponentially worse.

that isnt the world simply being imperfect, this is the case of a grave and growing problem, just because you dislike the ideologies themselves doesnt mean you should blind yourself to the return of feudalism lol

America is currently an occupied country in my opinion, Europe is as well. Occupied by an elite that is hostile to the inhabitants

considering the other countries of the world this phenomenon isnt unheard of but the vast level of delusion in western countries that this isnt the case, is what makes it unique <:thinking_clown:590855640268668928>

@UnScottable You should check out the Princeton Oligarchy Study and various similar studies which show that the views of elites in the American politics almost always takes precedence over the majority view of the people.

Alt Hype did a great video on this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/jeroq1tZ2v6W/

You have causality backwards. I don't say the ideology is worse because I dislike it. I dislike it because the ideology is that bad. Histrionics on your part does nothing to change this.

@Jym youre also conflating your hatred of the ideology with whether or not the problem that they formed in response to exists

and since the problem that they are responding to clearly does exist one wonders why you keep making the discussion about the ideologies tenets themselves, whatever the ideologies are doe snot matter, the point in the beginning was that they have similiar origins because they formed to counteract the same threat. Since this threat is very real it is disingenuous to disregard it just becaush muh socialism bad. socialism is bad, but your blind hatred of it is obscuring your vision of the bigger picture

No idea where you're getting that chief. I agreed that problems exist. That is in no way mutually exclusive to their ideology being worse than the problems.

If you said "there are pedophiles in Dayton OH therefore we should nuke it." I can say your idea is horrible without denying that there likely are pedophiles in Dayton.

im not defending the ideology lol, and at least fascism is preferrable to nue feudalism

You'd have to define "neu feudalism" to make that assertion. Within the last century or so the only system worse than facism was the other major form of socialism ie communism. And that's debatable because it was so short lived.

why are you on this server in the first place? because you take umbrage with the current state of affairs? because you dislike the media clamping down on opposition? because you dont like the democrats? nue feudalism is just the eventual dystopic state gained from the world proceding towards the globalist direction it is in. What it looks like is communist china essentially, except the people will most likely be a hodge podge of mixed races. the people will exist to live on the land of he elites, buy their products, and work solely for the elites, with no ability to work for themselves or own their own land.

I'm on this server because I enjoy Sargon's content. Admittedly I am more to the right of him politically. FWIW the discussion you came into recently was about advocates of *both forms* of socialism complaining about TIK's videos (he's another Brit Youtuber who does history content) on the topic.

If you're saying neu feudalism is an imaginary dystopia you fear might exist we agree. Things can always be worse in your imagination.

It is something currently in the process of existing or are you not aware of any of the laws being passed by everyone around und you as you sorry around pointlessly on the internet?

Could you try again in English?

*This (unspecified) stuff* over here exists and *that (unspecified) stuff* over there is happening and you're not noticing *any of either stuff.*

Lets see if there's something I can learn about that person... hmmm, oh, lookie here
https://gyazo.com/54a1a74e8074b92c2a74c3e2e0522a2b

Lets debate the pros of incest, shall we <:thinkgon:560211224923734026>

I'll begin: the pre-existing issue of incest is... the fact that it's incest <:Veemote:501103628883591188>

Incest is OK so long as it is done by lesser subspecies of humans.

I wanna hear someone make moral case against 2 sisters fucking

Somebody asked Dawkins this and he said, i guess it's ok

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That's because lesbians are gay. Therefore, it is haram.

I wish BKP was here <:smugon:512048583806025739>