So was the pikemen

@SideTracker the most extreme hedonists? That would be religious puritans who give up everything in this life for a hope on eternal pleasure and avoidance of eternal pain.

you and your shitty hallmark wrapping paper armour can go die

@Redneo putting happiness on the 1st place is wrong in the fundament

@Lucienne d'Anwyl Greeks wore armour. What are you on about?

@Tato how so?

when you talk about antiquity you talk about eras you mutt @Lucienne d'Anwyl

He's saying they were RELATIVELY less armored compares to the Romans.

light armour

🤷

they arent exactly clibinarii

It was lighter than the pro army of rome, but it was a legit armour

He said that

german savages also wore "legit armour"

Leather skins protect against slashes to a degree

Don't underestimate the toughness of leather

@Tato without any assumptions you cant say such a thing. Becouse existential nihilism is true. There is no intrinic value or meaning. Which is great becouse id hate it if there was intrinsic value in torturing someone and thats just decided by the universe instead of me being able to decide against it.

in fairness uksio

anything protects against slashes

slashes are weak af

and easily blocked

thats why spears are a thing

It is a modern BS that "those savages wore no armour"

They did

i know

@Uksio before lynthorax armour greek hoplites whore plate so idk what the fuck Lucy is talking about. Hell even ly thorax is pretty descent armour

everyone back hen worse some manner of armour

Not as effective as later armies, but they didn't want to die

t. martial expert lucy of west cousinfuckertown

Hell greeks upgraded to chainmail later on too

except literal peasants who are getting their town raided

hedonism enslaves

u are slave of ur happiness

"happiness"

During the era of Macedonian supremacy post Alexander

australian aboriginees didnt <:slurpgon:583424900732157956>

@SideTracker only the rich ones though. Most people could not afford a metal breastplate. So that's not exactly a universal thing there.

inb4 muh myrmidons

@Tato evenn if that was true - and its not - you cant justify that being enslaved is a bad thing without any philosophical foundation and those foundations are not right or wrong.

I like how laminated cotton replaced the metal breastplate in greek army

Like legit the Seleucids even based their infatry after the roman pricipes and early legionaries @Uksio