Message from @SHEPARD D☭G
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Did you just read your own post they have to treat you and then they charge you whatever they want to charge and it's not like you can just unsew your liver back into your body
Without having a monopoly they own a monopoly over what you're going to pay
Cuz the services have already been rendered and you're obligated to that contract now
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Okay fine just walk out of a hospital after getting fixed up and just choose not to pay see what happens
People do it all the time lmao
I'm not saying that's the right thing to do
And people dine and Dash all the time guess what happens
apples to oranges much?
No it's literally the same thing you go in you get services and then are running out choosing not to pay for the services rendered
I see your point, but it's not considered the same, nor is it treated the same
I've been involved with the affairs of several family members with life altering illnesses
cancer for my grandmother and an exceptionally rare neurological condition for my mother
it's VERY expensive, and the hospitals are more than happy to work with you regarding payment
it's a massive issue, but not one that can't be fixe - without forcing everyone else to help pay for it
And let me guess because you don't have a credit card there for the medical bill only costed $2.99 to get taken care of for a procedure that costs thousands of dollars per treatment over the course of many months
So therefore the only reason people have expensive medical bills is because they just have a credit card even though that has no bearing on what it cost to treat your conditions
My statement about credit cards had to do with people being in unnecessary debt, not sure how/why you didn't understand that
had nothing directly to do with health are, but rather, the ability of people to pay for things
like medical bills
No, I specifically refer to it being a reason people can't pay medical bills
Because acknowledging that the self-admitted expensive medical bills are fucking expensive would shatter your worldview
Not once have I disagreed with that notion
Every step of the way you've disagreed
they're tremendously expensive, but far less so if you ***don't use credit or insurance***
Read the part in bold
Having no money and having a credit card are not the same thing
Cover an expensive medical procedure then you can't cover the cost of the expensive medical procedure and will go into debt just to get healed
Be a fucking adult, learn how to negotiate, and make an agreement with the hospital
it's how we did things before the insurance scam
Such negotiations are out of your hands when dealing with medical procedures
They hold all the cards your bargaining posture is dubious at best
Factually incorrect, my mother and grandmother negotiated, one with Duke and the other with Sentara
Okay but can you use examples to come from reality?
CareCredit is a thing
And it's going to cost you an arm and a leg to get your arm and leg back
My family members aren't real? lol
Anyone can pull a name out of thin air and attach bullshit stories to them
People are so heavily indoctrinated they simply don't know you have the ability to negotiate with doctors
not all doctors will do it, however, it's not an absolute