Message from @Phobia

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2019-10-27 17:34:23 UTC  

False.

2019-10-27 17:34:40 UTC  

Your irresponsibility with money doesn't equate to a medical practice forcing you into debt

2019-10-27 17:35:00 UTC  

Letting people have the Freedom of information necessary to solve problems himself is bad?

Explain

2019-10-27 17:35:05 UTC  

Save your money, use only a secured credit card

2019-10-27 17:35:08 UTC  

pay for things in cash

2019-10-27 17:35:24 UTC  

Don't fall for the credit trap, it's a fucking scam

2019-10-27 17:35:30 UTC  

You have absolutely no idea how the medical system works in America do you

2019-10-27 17:35:46 UTC  

***MANY*** doctors will gladly negotiate pricing with you if you pay in cash

2019-10-27 17:36:16 UTC  

Forgo insurance companies and that reduces the paperwork and bullshit they have to deal with

2019-10-27 17:36:18 UTC  

I love how your immediate assumption is that people are just buying credit cards left and right instead of actually acknowledging the overpriced nature of Medical Care a lot of the medicines that cost hundreds if not thousands of dollars only costs like less than five bucks and sometimes less than a dollar to make

2019-10-27 17:36:34 UTC  

now, that said, the insurance system is a fucking disaster and it's directly causing the prices of health care to rise

2019-10-27 17:36:52 UTC  

primarily because of government involvement, just like college loans

2019-10-27 17:36:54 UTC  

Good luck trying to even get into a hospital without insurance

2019-10-27 17:37:13 UTC  

They have to treat you regardless, so who here doesn't know what they're talking about?

2019-10-27 17:37:49 UTC  

You make valid points, but this "die or go into debt" schtick is bullshit

2019-10-27 17:38:00 UTC  

Did you just read your own post they have to treat you and then they charge you whatever they want to charge and it's not like you can just unsew your liver back into your body

2019-10-27 17:38:17 UTC  

Without having a monopoly they own a monopoly over what you're going to pay

2019-10-27 17:38:28 UTC  

Cuz the services have already been rendered and you're obligated to that contract now

2019-10-27 17:38:29 UTC  

🤦

2019-10-27 17:38:47 UTC  

Okay fine just walk out of a hospital after getting fixed up and just choose not to pay see what happens

2019-10-27 17:38:58 UTC  

People do it all the time lmao

2019-10-27 17:39:14 UTC  

I'm not saying that's the right thing to do

2019-10-27 17:39:27 UTC  

And people dine and Dash all the time guess what happens

2019-10-27 17:39:37 UTC  

apples to oranges much?

2019-10-27 17:39:58 UTC  

No it's literally the same thing you go in you get services and then are running out choosing not to pay for the services rendered

2019-10-27 17:41:02 UTC  

I see your point, but it's not considered the same, nor is it treated the same

2019-10-27 17:41:58 UTC  

I've been involved with the affairs of several family members with life altering illnesses

2019-10-27 17:42:14 UTC  

cancer for my grandmother and an exceptionally rare neurological condition for my mother

2019-10-27 17:42:33 UTC  

it's VERY expensive, and the hospitals are more than happy to work with you regarding payment

2019-10-27 17:42:50 UTC  

it's a massive issue, but not one that can't be fixe - without forcing everyone else to help pay for it

2019-10-27 17:42:55 UTC  

And let me guess because you don't have a credit card there for the medical bill only costed $2.99 to get taken care of for a procedure that costs thousands of dollars per treatment over the course of many months

2019-10-27 17:43:20 UTC  

So therefore the only reason people have expensive medical bills is because they just have a credit card even though that has no bearing on what it cost to treat your conditions

2019-10-27 17:43:34 UTC  

My statement about credit cards had to do with people being in unnecessary debt, not sure how/why you didn't understand that

2019-10-27 17:44:00 UTC  

had nothing directly to do with health are, but rather, the ability of people to pay for things

2019-10-27 17:44:03 UTC  

like medical bills

2019-10-27 17:44:06 UTC  

Because you specifically refer to it as the exclusive reason for people being in debt

2019-10-27 17:44:23 UTC  

No, I specifically refer to it being a reason people can't pay medical bills

2019-10-27 17:44:23 UTC  

Because acknowledging that the self-admitted expensive medical bills are fucking expensive would shatter your worldview

2019-10-27 17:44:35 UTC  

Not once have I disagreed with that notion

2019-10-27 17:44:47 UTC  

Every step of the way you've disagreed

2019-10-27 17:44:50 UTC  

they're tremendously expensive, but far less so if you ***don't use credit or insurance***