Under the current systems available you would have the greatest freedom of choice

You can choose
not going to crippling debit and get your liver taken care of
Or
choose to go into crippling debt and maybe get your liver taken care of

Over here in America we don't have that choice the options are live with it or going to crippling debt

I think we're better off having the information necessary to become doctors Physicians whatever be more widely accessible so that people either cheaply and easily become doctors and help people or even better people are able to seize the means of producing health care for themselves and take care of the problem themselves

False.

Your irresponsibility with money doesn't equate to a medical practice forcing you into debt

Letting people have the Freedom of information necessary to solve problems himself is bad?

Explain

Save your money, use only a secured credit card

pay for things in cash

Don't fall for the credit trap, it's a fucking scam

You have absolutely no idea how the medical system works in America do you

***MANY*** doctors will gladly negotiate pricing with you if you pay in cash

Forgo insurance companies and that reduces the paperwork and bullshit they have to deal with

I love how your immediate assumption is that people are just buying credit cards left and right instead of actually acknowledging the overpriced nature of Medical Care a lot of the medicines that cost hundreds if not thousands of dollars only costs like less than five bucks and sometimes less than a dollar to make

now, that said, the insurance system is a fucking disaster and it's directly causing the prices of health care to rise

primarily because of government involvement, just like college loans

Good luck trying to even get into a hospital without insurance

They have to treat you regardless, so who here doesn't know what they're talking about?

You make valid points, but this "die or go into debt" schtick is bullshit

Did you just read your own post they have to treat you and then they charge you whatever they want to charge and it's not like you can just unsew your liver back into your body

Without having a monopoly they own a monopoly over what you're going to pay

Cuz the services have already been rendered and you're obligated to that contract now

🤦

Okay fine just walk out of a hospital after getting fixed up and just choose not to pay see what happens

People do it all the time lmao

I'm not saying that's the right thing to do

And people dine and Dash all the time guess what happens

apples to oranges much?

No it's literally the same thing you go in you get services and then are running out choosing not to pay for the services rendered

I see your point, but it's not considered the same, nor is it treated the same

I've been involved with the affairs of several family members with life altering illnesses

cancer for my grandmother and an exceptionally rare neurological condition for my mother

it's VERY expensive, and the hospitals are more than happy to work with you regarding payment

it's a massive issue, but not one that can't be fixe - without forcing everyone else to help pay for it