Message from @VexenX

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2018-07-08 03:35:08 UTC  

This is fucking fun. I'm enjoying the half ass packing my stuff I'm doing while interacting in text and voice.

2018-07-08 03:35:10 UTC  

2018-07-08 03:35:17 UTC  

and therefore unethical

2018-07-08 03:35:24 UTC  

I agree with your point @AiarUther

2018-07-08 03:35:35 UTC  

But the real question is this; can violence ever BE ethical?

2018-07-08 03:35:42 UTC  

no

2018-07-08 03:35:46 UTC  

Are you allowed to defend yourself?

2018-07-08 03:35:47 UTC  

No?

2018-07-08 03:35:50 UTC  

That seems unethical.

2018-07-08 03:35:52 UTC  

I don't see defending yourself as "violence"

2018-07-08 03:36:01 UTC  

that's self defence

2018-07-08 03:36:03 UTC  

that goes back to the question of whether humans are inherently violent... i would guess we are

2018-07-08 03:36:06 UTC  

Then the state isn't violence

2018-07-08 03:36:07 UTC  

That is a different definition if violence is involved though.

2018-07-08 03:36:25 UTC  

But the state has to use aggessive violence to exist

2018-07-08 03:36:32 UTC  

Do they?

2018-07-08 03:36:32 UTC  

Man, I'm getting some sweet xp typing away with you peeps. XD

2018-07-08 03:36:41 UTC  

They levy taxes

2018-07-08 03:36:42 UTC  

I believe he is correct that they do.

2018-07-08 03:36:44 UTC  

theft is violent

2018-07-08 03:36:49 UTC  

Otherwise people would ignore their rules.

2018-07-08 03:36:52 UTC  

Think of the most BASIC of government systems

2018-07-08 03:36:58 UTC  

And if the rules are not enforced, there is no government.

2018-07-08 03:37:08 UTC  

is there a government that doesn't tax?

2018-07-08 03:37:08 UTC  

Volunteerism only goes so far.

2018-07-08 03:37:19 UTC  

Canadian Question

2018-07-08 03:37:20 UTC  

I'm already bored here. too many people talking lol

2018-07-08 03:37:24 UTC  

XD

2018-07-08 03:37:27 UTC  

Aw well

2018-07-08 03:37:30 UTC  

It was good while it lasted

2018-07-08 03:37:37 UTC  

@Fitzydog you sound like someone who is being beaten

2018-07-08 03:37:42 UTC  

XD

2018-07-08 03:37:55 UTC  

@AiarUther No, I just like talking one on one, not to three different people

2018-07-08 03:38:11 UTC  

suuuure

2018-07-08 03:38:25 UTC  

I don't mind a group. **shrug**

2018-07-08 03:38:40 UTC  

@Fitzydog so your against orgies?

2018-07-08 03:38:41 UTC  

It's better in text than voice.

2018-07-08 03:38:43 UTC  

okay, I'll stop being a troll

2018-07-08 03:38:44 UTC  

Alright, then let me repeat my question: What is the most basic of governments you can think of? One that provides commons defense, yes?

2018-07-08 03:38:55 UTC  

yes

2018-07-08 03:39:06 UTC  

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