They levy taxes

I believe he is correct that they do.

theft is violent

Otherwise people would ignore their rules.

Think of the most BASIC of government systems

And if the rules are not enforced, there is no government.

is there a government that doesn't tax?

Volunteerism only goes so far.

Canadian Question

I'm already bored here. too many people talking lol

XD

Aw well

It was good while it lasted

@Fitzydog you sound like someone who is being beaten

XD

@AiarUther No, I just like talking one on one, not to three different people

suuuure

I don't mind a group. **shrug**

@Fitzydog so your against orgies?

It's better in text than voice.

okay, I'll stop being a troll

Alright, then let me repeat my question: What is the most basic of governments you can think of? One that provides commons defense, yes?

yes

The most rudimentary would be one that protects it citizens for some level of prosperity.

@Fitzydog can this government exist without taxation?

even the most simple?

Yes, but how successful would it be?

How long would it last?

Yes it's completely voluntary, it's just the 'main' group of 'border guards'

Imagine my Locke

Where's the violence against those who are ruled?

As long as there was no dissent in the internal structure itself, it could last, but that would potentially have to be protected...

the most rudimentary form of governments only purpose is to protect the rights of its citzenry

"ruled"

@VexenX I'm not speaking pragmatically

@SOTGOR but still they need to fund themselves

usually through taxes

and taxation is theft

wrong