Message from @Ultima X20
Discord ID: 465361281071841281
I'm already bored here. too many people talking lol
XD
Aw well
It was good while it lasted
XD
@AiarUther No, I just like talking one on one, not to three different people
suuuure
I don't mind a group. **shrug**
It's better in text than voice.
okay, I'll stop being a troll
Alright, then let me repeat my question: What is the most basic of governments you can think of? One that provides commons defense, yes?
yes
The most rudimentary would be one that protects it citizens for some level of prosperity.
even the most simple?
Yes, but how successful would it be?
How long would it last?
Yes it's completely voluntary, it's just the 'main' group of 'border guards'
Imagine my Locke
Where's the violence against those who are ruled?
As long as there was no dissent in the internal structure itself, it could last, but that would potentially have to be protected...
the most rudimentary form of governments only purpose is to protect the rights of its citzenry
"ruled"
usually through taxes
and taxation is theft
wrong
yes it is
y
taxation is theft
@AiarUther Why? Every man brings what he can, if he wants
pragmatism is the important principle here
Taxation, by definition is theft
The violence can be debated and broken down thusly... person A wants person B to do something that person B doesn't want to do. Person A has (over simplified) two choices, consequences for the disobedience or ignore it.
If they want to push their ideology on this one person, or group of people, at some point it comes to forcing them.