Message from @DanConway
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the entire anti-abortion argument hinges on the assumption that a fetus is a citizen with rights
thanks
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because its a slippery slope, nobody can logically argue a 1 week old fetus is a person, it has no nervous system etc
what defines a person
you have to pick some point where the fetus is a person
legally
so if they say black people are legally not people
they dont get rights?
Catholics don’t deserve rights
Legality is arbitrary
I agree
The pope is arbitrary
the reality of our existence doesn't always fit our moral preconceptions
pro-birth is unworkable in the west we simply don't have the infastructure to support that much growth
lmao
"accidental deaths" are fine but the same exact result brought about artificially is not
have you ever heard of culpability?
We also don't have the infrastructure to support an aging population
Accidental deaths can't be stopped
im just pointing out the moral outrage is totally fake
by definition accidental deaths are not immoral
they can still be tragic
@radeon That's why it's okay if somebody is accidentally struck by a falling rock but not okay if I push the rock onto them to kill them?
Anyway arguments from infrastructure are also pointless
Just use contraceptives
my point is that the "pro life" people have no actual interest in these babies they are simply moralfagging, they want nothing to do with actually caring for these millions of crack babies who will never be anything in life
thats a pretty interesting strawman
unless ***YOU*** are willing to pay for these forced babies then shut the fuck up
I mean I am willing for the state to create good Foster systems
With lots of money
Off tax money
forcing your version of morality upon other people but doing nothing about the consequences, thats the definition of moralfagging
Not beeing pro murder is moralfagging?
moralfagging




