Message from @meratrix

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2018-06-04 19:08:55 UTC  

lol didnt source forge get bought and turned around recently?

2018-06-04 19:55:56 UTC  
2018-06-04 19:57:42 UTC  

SF had all projects once.

2018-06-04 19:59:01 UTC  

But it stuck with an arcane system to upload files, CVS, and was as slow as mollasses in January.

2018-06-04 19:59:35 UTC  

When everyone was moving to hg, git, SF announced support for... SVN.

2018-06-04 20:00:21 UTC  

And then that scandal with the mirror sites injecting malware in the download files happened.

2018-06-04 23:25:44 UTC  

I personally never liked source forge.

2018-06-04 23:26:28 UTC  

And @andy is an edgi boi is right, fuck Microsoft.

2018-06-04 23:27:15 UTC  

I like the test pipeline support of Bitbucket anyway.

2018-06-05 01:36:57 UTC  

Sourceforge was really good back in 2003. The whole "fuck microsoft" is just really cringey when working in the professional world. I am from the UK and a huge number of jobs are .NET based.

Also the bitbucket pipelines stuff has been in TFS since 2013.

2018-06-05 02:18:06 UTC  

@DanielKO The Dev management has always been pretty good. It is Office and Windows that has been historically a mess.

2018-06-05 03:17:13 UTC  

@Deleted User you are not honestly comparing a free to use Bitbucket with a commercial product? Travis-CI combined with Github has them too, but then your code must not be in a private repo. Or there are solutions, which you can deploy for yourself.

2018-06-05 03:17:56 UTC  

Replace "professional" with business, because I never saw .NET in my professional world.

2018-06-05 06:23:25 UTC  

@Deleted User Bitbucket and Atlassian stuff isn't free to use if you got over X number of people in the team you have to pay, the same with Github (mainly private repos etc) and TFS Online.

As for .NET usage it is huge in the UK. I dunno about other countries. I know a lot of web dev shops don't tend to use it and usually stick to node / php. However I don't really want to get into a pissing match about languages because it is completely pointless

2018-06-05 07:20:08 UTC  

Someone asked me to make an emitter of spinning hotdogs

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423219052849397773/453457983775703050/HotdogEmitter.gif

2018-06-05 10:35:39 UTC  

I am aware of that, but this limitation is hardly a problem for most Bitbucket and Github projects.

2018-06-05 10:38:00 UTC  

If you are a bigger company, you should have your own deployd solution anyway.

2018-06-05 11:38:01 UTC  

Why durtle why

2018-06-05 11:43:21 UTC  

@Deleted User well it’s been a problem on some of the projects I’ve worked on. The pricing goes from free to like like £15 then like £1000

2018-06-05 11:49:47 UTC  

@Deleted User in anycase All the major players have had their own ci/cd workflow for quite a while. In anycase it is ridiculous the freak out about github. The company hasn’t had a ceo in months and most comments sections are full of the usual ms hating nonsense

2018-06-05 13:51:24 UTC  

Microsoft hasn’t even bought it yet and my roommate’s already switching to gitlab. 😆

2018-06-05 14:14:38 UTC  

Is gitlab still slow?

2018-06-05 14:15:10 UTC  

inb4 Google buys gitlab and just closes it down.

2018-06-05 14:18:49 UTC  

Anyway, Steve Balmer was notorious for instating a Survival of the Fittest inside Microsoft, that prevented any team from collaborating with each other. Even their compiler division got demoralized. People kept saying the Xbox division was the only part of MS was fun, because the guy in charge kept fighting back against integrating the management with the rest of the company.

2018-06-05 14:19:18 UTC  

This kind of shit kills companies. It kills their products, chips off their edge.

2018-06-05 15:17:31 UTC  

@meratrix that is ridiculous.

@DanielKO going to be slow until everyone stops sperging out

2018-06-05 16:22:24 UTC  

Heil Microsoft, then. Let MS, Google , Apply, Oracle, Amazon, ... buy all smaller companies, it will be the best for the consumer 🤞

2018-06-05 16:37:03 UTC  

yeah I read about that bull

2018-06-05 16:37:21 UTC  

basically they decided that they'll cut x % lowest performers per year

2018-06-05 16:37:49 UTC  

result - people started focusing on sabotaging others and doing everything measurable they could , rather than doing productive stuff

2018-06-05 16:50:57 UTC  

Reminder that gitlab runs off Azure, the Microsoft cloud service. That's why it's slow.

2018-06-05 17:21:55 UTC  

cant you run it on your own server?

2018-06-05 17:22:22 UTC  

I know, it ispossible with Stackoverflow.

2018-06-05 17:39:17 UTC  

@Deleted User getting bought for billions doesn't make you a small company.

@DanielKO Gitlabs probably hasn't bothered upping whatever they were paying on Azure.

2018-06-05 17:39:52 UTC  

@Deleted User yes you can run your own version of Gitlabs but you need a fairly decent server from what I have read

2018-06-05 17:40:50 UTC  

You should run on your own server, if you are a company.

2018-06-05 17:41:08 UTC  

??

2018-06-05 17:43:02 UTC  

I am not suprised, that for a MS fanboy, who seems to like vendor-locks, it is a ?

2018-06-05 17:43:15 UTC  

@Deleted User It really depends how big you are. Whether it is worth hosting your own stuff. Normally it isn't worth it, simply because it takes time having to setup and maintain a server and if you have a small team it usually isn't worth it.

2018-06-05 17:43:48 UTC  

@Deleted User I don't like vendor lock-in, BTW I am typing this on a Mac

2018-06-05 17:54:29 UTC  

I don't expect it for start-ups and for bootstraping, but for established companies. Source code is one of your most precious resources.