Message from @picnicnapkin

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2018-07-15 16:26:15 UTC  

too bad my cable runs are garbage and I'm too lazy to make them all tidy

2018-07-15 16:26:57 UTC  

but I don't have lights in my case or whatever and I'm the only one who ever looks

2018-07-15 17:08:09 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423219052849397773/468101478222135317/unknown.png

2018-07-15 17:08:15 UTC  

^^^ in my YT stats

2018-07-15 17:08:57 UTC  

"India (0.0%)"

2018-07-17 04:36:30 UTC  

OMFG system library management on windows is as solid as diarrhea. I have libcurl on the path - can't find it. I specify the exact location of libcurl in the build dirrectives - can't load it. Delete line in build directives and put libcurl in the local build folder - WORKS. I have to package this by the middle of next month and I'm seriously thinking of just blowing money on having a windows dev do it for me because this is awful.

2018-07-17 04:37:16 UTC  

Linux I just specify the dependency in the packaging file and it will just be there - no having to specify extra stuff it's just there and that's that

2018-07-17 04:38:20 UTC  

how is it like 25 years of packaging systems working on Linux/BSD/etc. and MS can't come up with something similar?

2018-07-17 04:58:24 UTC  

@Ƶero hahahha 🤣🤣🤣😂😂

2018-07-17 04:58:40 UTC  

You’re actually expecting MS to be competent?

2018-07-17 05:05:40 UTC  

I actually know the reason why they don't have system level library management (to prevent moving target/dependency issues and because dll's aren't technically "shared" libraries like SO libs on POSIX systems) but at this point if you can't figure that out with billions of dollars then you can basically go fuck yourself. SO versioning issues only come about if you have a maintainer that is super anal about mid versioning anyway and that's an issue with the maintainer not the management system.

2018-07-17 05:08:13 UTC  

It's just insane to me that I have to open a browser, hunt down libraries one by one, make sure they are built to be compatible with eachother (native/mingw/cygwin....), download them, unpack them/install them, then figure out how to get the system to recognize they're even there or that they can be used. A 5 second process on Linux is taking me almost a day now on Windows.

2018-07-17 05:09:04 UTC  

also chocolately is the biggiest pile of shit ever

2018-07-17 05:09:47 UTC  

while we're on the subject OS-X is probably worse

2018-07-17 05:11:16 UTC  

at least on Windows we can do this kind of thing fairly freely and without breaking the standard system. Homebrew and non-homebrew systems don't mix and homebrew changes all sorts of system environment settings which seems to break random things

2018-07-17 05:12:05 UTC  

I had to wipe a mac dev machine recently because uninstalling homebrew completely messed up the system

2018-07-17 05:15:12 UTC  

and at least the Windows UI is usable if you are competent. Using OS-X is like trying to get a girl off while wearing mittons and the ability to use your mouth is 3rd party and costs hundreds of dollars

2018-07-17 05:20:14 UTC  

why would you develop on OS-X?

2018-07-17 05:21:33 UTC  

just porting

2018-07-17 07:15:52 UTC  

every minute I spend using OS-X feels like a half an hour. It's made for simpletons who can't understand an interface that isn't less than 5 buttons. There are litearlly paid apps that do nothing other than make it easy to show hidden files, as this is apparently not a normal feature. If you are viewing hidden files on OS-X you are a "power user".

This is why modern day NASA engineers can't make a rocket that can go to the moon. They're too busy trying to pick their gender to focus on anything and they're too scared to think outside the box because they've been told something as simple as viewing hidden files is dangerous. Every Apple engineer should be crushed in a compactor and Tim Cook should be burned alive like the faggot he is for tainting technological society so badly. Seriously, fuck you Apple.

2018-07-17 07:19:32 UTC  

lol jesus christ dude

2018-07-17 07:19:46 UTC  

you know it's true

2018-07-17 07:20:12 UTC  

i currently use a mac, it pisses me off occasionally

2018-07-17 07:20:20 UTC  

i _have_ figured out my gender however

2018-07-17 07:20:50 UTC  

anybody who doesn't have a 3rd party expansion pack gender shouldn't be using a mac

2018-07-17 07:20:57 UTC  

i dont use any apple products for my work though, fuck xcode

2018-07-17 07:21:32 UTC  

85% of the time my mac is just a glorified SSH machine

2018-07-17 07:23:22 UTC  

omfg yes fuck xcode. Want to use an outdated compiler that can't compile the latest code? Want a completely fucked version of make that isn't compatible with cmake/automake? Well just download 27GB of xcode garbage and fight with settings for the next 2 hours to get anything accessible outside of the GUI and you're set!

2018-07-17 07:24:15 UTC  

brew install llvm/clang/gcc pick your poison and use that

2018-07-17 07:24:17 UTC  

even ssh on the mac is horrible because you need to get a 3rd party terminal and mess with settings

2018-07-17 07:24:24 UTC  

or do you need to create a signed app or something

2018-07-17 07:24:29 UTC  

can't use brew if you're porting

2018-07-17 07:24:44 UTC  

you literally have to have a machine *without* brew to make proper native apps

2018-07-17 07:25:12 UTC  

yeah, signed apps and apps that install on standard systems (without brew)

2018-07-17 07:25:31 UTC  

im typically writing systems/research code as opposed to commercial products/apps so i never have these problems 😆

2018-07-17 07:25:49 UTC  

i feel for you brah

2018-07-17 07:26:09 UTC  

I have to do this kind of thing on the mac maybe once or twice a year max, so really I'm only using it for like 3 or 4 days out of the year total

2018-07-17 07:26:19 UTC  

there must be some way to package an app and sign it without using xcode directly

2018-07-17 07:26:27 UTC  

hahahhaha no

2018-07-17 07:26:34 UTC  

this is apple

2018-07-17 07:30:02 UTC  

god damn everything is agrivating today. Amazon is having that prime day sale and they have bluetooth keyboards - but only the ANSI versions are on sale and I need an ISO layout because I need the \ろ key