but it's nowhere near fast unless you use pypy (which is kind of a drop in replacement to CPython in a lot of ways), but the problem with pypy is that if you're calling C-based modules, it'll slow down like crazy which is why it's recommended to use something called CFFI with pypy, but not many modules support it so yeah

This may sound odd, but are there grammar/logic guides for various languages?

ehhh ... you just need to code some programs 😉

kay

well I mean, if you want somewhere to start, let's just say your first project is going to be entirely made out of stackoverflow.com snippets

unless you're making a hello world program, in which case it'll just be one stackoverflow.com snippet

lol stackoverflow is every programmers best friend

https://knightlab.northwestern.edu/2014/06/05/five-mini-programming-projects-for-the-python-beginner/

here are some simple projects to get started

but you should start with a python "hello world" tutorial

because it sounds like you starting from absolute zero programming

YUP

I did say I was a noob

😛

Wasn't really sure how to get started.

Or which language to start with

https://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/ex0.html

i have heard good things about this "book"

my only suggestion is to use VSCode rather than Atom as your editor

do NOT use notepad or Word or Wordpad to edit code

well I mean, everyone starts with Python, a lot of people end with Python- don't trick yourself into thinking Python is a beginner's language though- it's not. It depends on what you're making. when beginners use Python, they're likely using a very small and very simple fraction of it's capabilities- there's far more you could end up working with depending on what you make.

oh yeah

and don't use Atom editor

it's for people with severe brain damage

Atom is gross.

Very slow.

VS Code is cool but still Electron-based (another reason why I hate Discord lmao), I'd recommend Geany but it's linux-only

all Electron developers must be eradicated under the holy order of the C++ emperor

vscode performance is amazing considering its electron. and i have a few hundred MB of ram to spare

yeah, VS code isn't entirely electron so that's probably why

What's electron?

electron makes it easy to make junk that runs like shit

Electron is a web browser without the URL bar and with NodeJS built in

aka Chromium Embedded Framework revised

its for making nice sleek desktop GUI programs using the same programming frameworks used in making fancy web apps

Electron is literally just your program, but running inside a Chrome browser that can't go on websites.

It's ridiculously slow.

it _can_ be super slow, you have to be careful how you code the apps

and most people using it are probably noobs who have no idea how javascript actually performs under the hood

That'd be me 😛

atom is a bad example, the Slack desktop app used to be, and VSCode is a very good example