Message from @Silver0Fox

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2018-08-21 12:43:54 UTC  

the syntax is less cryptic than other languages

2018-08-21 12:44:31 UTC  

a lot of my projects run on python simply so that people can figure out what it does much more easily

2018-08-21 12:45:01 UTC  

usually when I write implementations of algorithms I make, such as Sphinx2, i'll do it in c++ for speed and rewrite it in python so that people can understand it

2018-08-21 12:45:20 UTC  

though nowadays I tend to do it the other way round because it's more efficient

2018-08-21 12:46:08 UTC  

so yeah

2018-08-21 12:46:13 UTC  

python is more flexible by far

2018-08-21 12:47:08 UTC  

but it's nowhere near fast unless you use pypy (which is kind of a drop in replacement to CPython in a lot of ways), but the problem with pypy is that if you're calling C-based modules, it'll slow down like crazy which is why it's recommended to use something called CFFI with pypy, but not many modules support it so yeah

2018-08-21 12:47:10 UTC  

This may sound odd, but are there grammar/logic guides for various languages?

2018-08-21 12:47:37 UTC  

ehhh ... you just need to code some programs 😉

2018-08-21 12:48:08 UTC  

kay

2018-08-21 12:48:18 UTC  

well I mean, if you want somewhere to start, let's just say your first project is going to be entirely made out of stackoverflow.com snippets

2018-08-21 12:48:49 UTC  

unless you're making a hello world program, in which case it'll just be one stackoverflow.com snippet

2018-08-21 12:49:06 UTC  

lol stackoverflow is every programmers best friend

2018-08-21 12:49:19 UTC  

here are some simple projects to get started

2018-08-21 12:49:54 UTC  

but you should start with a python "hello world" tutorial

2018-08-21 12:50:13 UTC  

because it sounds like you starting from absolute zero programming

2018-08-21 12:50:30 UTC  

YUP

2018-08-21 12:50:37 UTC  

I did say I was a noob

2018-08-21 12:50:42 UTC  

😛

2018-08-21 12:50:59 UTC  

Wasn't really sure how to get started.

2018-08-21 12:51:14 UTC  

Or which language to start with

2018-08-21 12:51:33 UTC  

i have heard good things about this "book"

2018-08-21 12:51:49 UTC  

my only suggestion is to use VSCode rather than Atom as your editor

2018-08-21 12:52:34 UTC  

do NOT use notepad or Word or Wordpad to edit code

2018-08-21 12:52:53 UTC  

well I mean, everyone starts with Python, a lot of people end with Python- don't trick yourself into thinking Python is a beginner's language though- it's not. It depends on what you're making. when beginners use Python, they're likely using a very small and very simple fraction of it's capabilities- there's far more you could end up working with depending on what you make.

2018-08-21 12:53:00 UTC  

oh yeah

2018-08-21 12:53:04 UTC  

and don't use Atom editor

2018-08-21 12:53:08 UTC  

it's for people with severe brain damage

2018-08-21 12:53:16 UTC  

Atom is gross.

2018-08-21 12:53:21 UTC  

Very slow.

2018-08-21 12:53:40 UTC  

VS Code is cool but still Electron-based (another reason why I hate Discord lmao), I'd recommend Geany but it's linux-only

2018-08-21 12:54:20 UTC  

all Electron developers must be eradicated under the holy order of the C++ emperor

2018-08-21 12:54:23 UTC  

vscode performance is amazing considering its electron. and i have a few hundred MB of ram to spare

2018-08-21 12:54:54 UTC  

yeah, VS code isn't entirely electron so that's probably why

2018-08-21 12:54:57 UTC  

What's electron?

2018-08-21 12:55:03 UTC  

electron makes it easy to make junk that runs like shit

2018-08-21 12:55:10 UTC  

Electron is a web browser without the URL bar and with NodeJS built in

2018-08-21 12:55:22 UTC  

aka Chromium Embedded Framework revised

2018-08-21 12:55:51 UTC  

its for making nice sleek desktop GUI programs using the same programming frameworks used in making fancy web apps