Message from @LOGiK
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250hp/275tq, turbo, 4 doors, same weight, and $5k cheaper
the difference between me and you is that I actually cross-shopped them
i'm not just saying this as an armchair argument
ah and the transmission is way better too
I will admit I haven't driven the current ST, but I have driven the RS
my preference for the GT86 comes down to road feel though, and my own personal affection for rwd
I have a lot of complaints with the gt86, mainly the lack of a factory turbo option and that toyota didn't really have much to do with it despite it wearing a toyota badge and looking imo better than the brz
though that is aesthetic
I like RWD more for sure, but that's not enough to justify the price, lower power, and overall lower value of the GT86
the RS is a good car, but no way in fuck i'm paying 40k for a focus
I paid $21,600 for my ST brand new
by preference for certain vehicles over others usually comes down to how they feel and for the driving experience I like the GT86, I wouldn't buy one though
Feel and driving experience in my ST is lovely
its its just as low as the GT86
the RS is much stiffer and unforgiving, the ST is in the sweet spot
the main reason I wouldn't buy a GT86 is because for the same money I could easily get a supra or R34 GTT
yeah there's that too
its just bad value
I mean, I bought my ST for the same price as a non-GTI golf
also anything is better than vw
vw is awful
I utterly resent vw even existing
just saying, what other sports cars can you buy for under $22k?
shame ford is killing everything
ford just want to make SUVs
sadly, that seems to be the future of cars
sadly, they aren't as good at making them as their other cars
well historically SUVs have always been garbage compared to sedan alternatives
that's pretty much universal across manufacturers
there are a couple of exceptions, especially where manufacturers are dedicated to suvs but even then
that said
the wife and I are looking at an Edge ST
I'm happy with my 200sx, I got it 5 years ago and have racked up 45k in it, it's not let me down yet
rust is just starting to appear on the inner arch, by the time it's bad I'll just get 19s for it and get the arches rolled anyway
Silverstone bruhs
it's very disappointing that I've never found any silver stones at silverstone
@JDM_WAAAT have ford fixed their multimedia stuff now? I got my mother an older focus and the media system sucks even for a 2010