Message from @LordCaledus

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2018-07-24 14:13:36 UTC  

I mean it sounds reasonable but 2k is really too low for trying to pass someone, while 1700 works just fine for cruising.

2018-07-24 15:29:48 UTC  

Well fifth is probably more use at around 80 is my guess

2018-07-24 15:30:31 UTC  

In a way I'm surprised they put a 6spd in

2018-07-24 15:33:04 UTC  

Its for fuel economy, and it shows

2018-07-24 15:33:22 UTC  

6spd cruze averages 35 to38mpg

2018-07-24 15:33:45 UTC  

5spd manual jettas get about 29 or 30

2018-07-24 15:34:02 UTC  

5spd corollas typically get like 32.

2018-07-24 15:34:19 UTC  

And they all have roughly the same amount of power.

2018-07-24 15:35:21 UTC  

They actually might get rid of the manual for the cruze now that fuel economy standards have been relaxed. It was basjcally the only reason they made it.

2018-07-24 15:35:44 UTC  

Got great fuel economy, but they actually made money on the sales unlike most of their hybrids

2018-07-24 15:44:43 UTC  

Tho they dont sell many

2018-07-24 15:46:56 UTC  

Murica needs to stop using garbage autos

2018-07-24 15:47:58 UTC  

For about 6 years now autos have been capable of providing better fuel economy than manuals, but most of the slush boxes in us cars are still prehistoric

2018-07-24 15:48:27 UTC  

I guess the fuel economy difference is smol and somewhat irrelevant when fuel is cheap

2018-07-24 15:49:07 UTC  

The eu has so many bs emissions taxes that any tiny improvement is massively beneficial even if it's fairly expensive

2018-07-24 16:56:17 UTC  

That is partly why

2018-07-24 16:56:40 UTC  

But honestly, in higher end cars there actually _is_ a noticeable difference.

2018-07-24 16:57:15 UTC  

Ex: US spec BWM 340i automatics get about 3 mpg better than the manual.

2018-07-24 16:58:12 UTC  

But that's a $40k+ car. There is a lot less room to make a better auto when your car is half that price like a Cruze.

2018-07-24 16:58:25 UTC  

Plus there is market differences.

2018-07-24 16:58:45 UTC  

People who buy manual cruzes buy it fir the fuel economy and fun factor.

2018-07-24 16:59:26 UTC  

People who buy the autos just want a basic, convenient car that gets at least okay gas mileage, but dont care if its the most efficient thing on the planet

2018-07-24 17:09:28 UTC  

I'm not sure if people buying brand new cruzes have fun in their mind at all

2018-07-24 17:10:56 UTC  

people who tend to consider fun on car purchases are usually either younger or wealthier, rarely both, the latter case lets a buyer look at more expensive options, the former usually results in second hand purchases

2018-07-24 17:21:30 UTC  

Maybe its sample bias, but the people i talk to who buy manual cruzes do it because its cheap, has a manual, gets 40mpg, and has a turbo.

2018-07-24 17:21:39 UTC  

At least the ones my age.

2018-07-24 17:22:07 UTC  

On the other hand, like i said, they dont sell many manual cruzes

2018-07-24 17:22:20 UTC  

Or...really manual econoboxes in general.

2018-07-24 17:30:35 UTC  

I'm a fan of my Nissan Leaf

2018-07-24 17:35:54 UTC  

Instant torque

2018-07-24 17:38:33 UTC  

Really though it's got really high torque

2018-07-24 17:38:41 UTC  

I usually keep it in eco mode though

2018-07-24 17:39:51 UTC  

Very funny meme

2018-07-24 17:41:19 UTC  

That's not a meme...

2018-07-24 17:43:10 UTC  

I like the leaf

2018-07-24 17:43:23 UTC  

Its probably the best election car around

2018-07-24 17:43:26 UTC  

Electric

2018-07-24 17:43:31 UTC  

Also election

2018-07-24 17:44:17 UTC  

Well I would vote for anyone who drove a Leaf in an election.

2018-07-24 17:47:45 UTC  

The leaf seems alright from what i hear.