But only for a moment

@LOGiK Just do a shaft drive off the differential

Damn copart has no busted diesel smarts for sake

that would be the best way to get one

https://www.gumtree.com/p/smart/smart-fortwo-2009-car/1304922691 huh I guess they're cheap

They sell smarts in exchange for sake?

Gross

Yknow it struck me that a smart diesel would be perfect for a bike pickup truck thing. @Fitzydog

Yes!

45hp is right about in that range

Prolly smaller and lighter than a harley 1800cc too

Even with being a diesel

http://www.thedrive.com/news/22319/bmw-to-electrify-all-m-cars-by-2030-report-says

These reporters have rather selective hearing

My bet: the m cars all go hybrid

We get like 2 full EVs maximum, and they are gonna only be sold where required as compliance cars

@LOGiK so just for the halibut i tested out the revs at 60mph while driving this morning.

4th gear: 2800rpm

5th: 2k

6th: 1700

I mean it sounds reasonable but 2k is really too low for trying to pass someone, while 1700 works just fine for cruising.

Well fifth is probably more use at around 80 is my guess

In a way I'm surprised they put a 6spd in

Its for fuel economy, and it shows

6spd cruze averages 35 to38mpg

5spd manual jettas get about 29 or 30

5spd corollas typically get like 32.

And they all have roughly the same amount of power.

They actually might get rid of the manual for the cruze now that fuel economy standards have been relaxed. It was basjcally the only reason they made it.

Got great fuel economy, but they actually made money on the sales unlike most of their hybrids

Tho they dont sell many

Murica needs to stop using garbage autos

For about 6 years now autos have been capable of providing better fuel economy than manuals, but most of the slush boxes in us cars are still prehistoric

I guess the fuel economy difference is smol and somewhat irrelevant when fuel is cheap

The eu has so many bs emissions taxes that any tiny improvement is massively beneficial even if it's fairly expensive

That is partly why

But honestly, in higher end cars there actually _is_ a noticeable difference.

Ex: US spec BWM 340i automatics get about 3 mpg better than the manual.

But that's a $40k+ car. There is a lot less room to make a better auto when your car is half that price like a Cruze.

Plus there is market differences.

People who buy manual cruzes buy it fir the fuel economy and fun factor.