What? They're offered because they get better mileage but not because they sell?

But you're not even arguing with me, you're arguing a strawman.

Every car that is sold is made because it is intended to be sold.

Riiiiight.

????

Because nobody sells anything for a loss ever.

That's not how it works.

Compliance cars are a thing, too; cars made to appease government regulation rather than to make money.

What?

So the cars made to comply with regulations aren't meant to be sold

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They're meant to sit there while the noncompliant cars sell??

What the fuck are you even saying

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You are talking nonsense.

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And what the fuck is a loss leader supposed to do for a car company?

Oh if they buy this economy car maybe they'll come back next week and also buy our luxury SUV??

Achieve some other goal, like _not incurring billions of dollars in fines for defying government regulation_

OH, SO THEY CAN SELL THEIR NONCOMPLIANT CARS WITHOUT ISSUE?

??????????

If the government decrees your _average_ fuel economy is to be 25mpg

Case in point: The Aston Martin Cygnet

But no one will buy your 55mpg econobox

@Sediment You're a fucking retard. Go away

Then you still sell it anyway so that you can say to the government "see? We _offer_ plenty of efficient cars! It's not our fault people don't buy them. Our lineup is at 25mpg average!"

Dealing with a misunderstanding, as with Matt, is annoying enough.

I hope a mouse shits in your coffee grounds and you get hantavirus.

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*Aston Martin Cygnet.* Seriously, its job is to increase the average MPG of the fleet.

At the very least, _recognize_ when you know literally nothing and _inquire_ rather than act like a know-it-all.

We might as well rename this channel "Regulations and Economics", since we discus it here enough lol

if cars don't sell, I don't think they ever impact targets

They do in the US

CAFE is lineup only, not sales

Yeah sure the cygnet didn't get shitcanned because they couldn't sell it or anything

They definitely kept it on without any care about sales

It wasn't supposed to sell

Totally what they wanted

Made their goal for sure

Now there _are_ other extra standards that do take sales into account