Message from @Sediment

Discord ID: 475820119189094437


2018-08-06 00:14:18 UTC  

Compliance cars are a thing, too; cars made to appease government regulation rather than to make money.

2018-08-06 00:15:34 UTC  

What?

2018-08-06 00:15:40 UTC  

So the cars made to comply with regulations aren't meant to be sold

2018-08-06 00:15:51 UTC  

<:thronk:441701565607444482>

2018-08-06 00:15:52 UTC  

They're meant to sit there while the noncompliant cars sell??

2018-08-06 00:15:56 UTC  

What the fuck are you even saying

2018-08-06 00:16:07 UTC  

<:thronk:441701565607444482> <:thronk:441701565607444482>

2018-08-06 00:16:15 UTC  

You are talking nonsense.

2018-08-06 00:16:31 UTC  

<:thronk:441701565607444482> <:thronk:441701565607444482> <:thronk:441701565607444482>

2018-08-06 00:16:46 UTC  

And what the fuck is a loss leader supposed to do for a car company?

2018-08-06 00:17:02 UTC  

Oh if they buy this economy car maybe they'll come back next week and also buy our luxury SUV??

2018-08-06 00:17:11 UTC  

Achieve some other goal, like _not incurring billions of dollars in fines for defying government regulation_

2018-08-06 00:17:27 UTC  

OH, SO THEY CAN SELL THEIR NONCOMPLIANT CARS WITHOUT ISSUE?

2018-08-06 00:17:33 UTC  

??????????

2018-08-06 00:17:39 UTC  

If the government decrees your _average_ fuel economy is to be 25mpg

2018-08-06 00:17:44 UTC  

Case in point: The Aston Martin Cygnet

2018-08-06 00:17:50 UTC  

But no one will buy your 55mpg econobox

2018-08-06 00:18:23 UTC  

@Sediment You're a fucking retard. Go away

2018-08-06 00:18:44 UTC  

Then you still sell it anyway so that you can say to the government "see? We _offer_ plenty of efficient cars! It's not our fault people don't buy them. Our lineup is at 25mpg average!"

2018-08-06 00:19:10 UTC  

Dealing with a misunderstanding, as with Matt, is annoying enough.

2018-08-06 00:19:16 UTC  

I hope a mouse shits in your coffee grounds and you get hantavirus.

2018-08-06 00:19:20 UTC  

Don't jump in a convo if you're just full <:thronk:441701565607444482>

2018-08-06 00:19:55 UTC  

*Aston Martin Cygnet.* Seriously, its job is to increase the average MPG of the fleet.

2018-08-06 00:20:12 UTC  

At the very least, _recognize_ when you know literally nothing and _inquire_ rather than act like a know-it-all.

2018-08-06 00:21:19 UTC  

We might as well rename this channel "Regulations and Economics", since we discus it here enough lol

2018-08-06 00:21:19 UTC  

if cars don't sell, I don't think they ever impact targets

2018-08-06 00:21:27 UTC  

They do in the US

2018-08-06 00:21:34 UTC  

CAFE is lineup only, not sales

2018-08-06 00:21:39 UTC  

Yeah sure the cygnet didn't get shitcanned because they couldn't sell it or anything

2018-08-06 00:21:46 UTC  

They definitely kept it on without any care about sales

2018-08-06 00:21:50 UTC  

It wasn't supposed to sell

2018-08-06 00:21:50 UTC  

Totally what they wanted

2018-08-06 00:21:53 UTC  

Made their goal for sure

2018-08-06 00:22:11 UTC  

Now there _are_ other extra standards that do take sales into account

2018-08-06 00:22:15 UTC  

also, dealers don't want cars taking up their showroom space if they don't sell and dealers also don't want cars to end up eroding their brand value

2018-08-06 00:22:34 UTC  

So they keep line 1 or 2 Volts on the lot for people that actually buy them.

2018-08-06 00:23:07 UTC  

Or they tell the dealers "tough tiddies, deal with it"

2018-08-06 00:23:13 UTC  

A car company does not make a product which is not intended to be sold.

2018-08-06 00:23:14 UTC  

Period.

2018-08-06 00:23:22 UTC  

*The Aston Martin Cygnet is a rebadged variant of the Toyota/Scion iQ marketed by Aston Martin beginning with model year 2011—enabling Aston Martin to comply with the 2012 European Union-imposed fleet average emissions regulations.*