Message from @LOGiK

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2018-08-15 21:06:16 UTC  

So I'd say that's a pretty crazy time for cars.

2018-08-15 21:06:47 UTC  

It's not like it's just been a steady climb.

I Love that act

not from a Cars angle though πŸ˜„

2018-08-15 21:07:31 UTC  

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not against the clean air act at all.

2018-08-15 21:08:03 UTC  

It put a barrier in just the right place, forcing companies to innovate

2018-08-15 21:08:05 UTC  

I'm more against the fact that engineers had such a hard time getting around it, so instead they just took the same big displacement engines and significantly lowered the performance.

2018-08-15 21:08:34 UTC  

At least initially.

engineers move slower than pencil pushers

big fucking wow

so instead of making new engine in 10mins

they just took the same big displacement engines and significantly lowered the performance.

IMAGINE MY SHOCK

2018-08-15 21:11:39 UTC  

It's not like they had the technology readily available to do that

2018-08-15 21:12:10 UTC  

I'm not talking about 10 minutes, 14 years later the Corvette still had 205hp.

2018-08-15 21:12:20 UTC  

America's premier sports car.

2018-08-15 21:12:45 UTC  

Well I'm against the clean air act

2018-08-15 21:12:55 UTC  

The Countach was on sale here during that time and had about 375.

2018-08-15 21:12:55 UTC  

make a clean air act for ships and planes, leave cars alone

2018-08-15 21:12:59 UTC  

LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE

2018-08-15 21:13:05 UTC  

And that's also the era that Japanese sports cars were overtaking American ones

2018-08-15 21:13:12 UTC  

Same with the Daytona.

2018-08-15 21:13:22 UTC  

American manufacturers literally had to learn how to innovate

2018-08-15 21:14:46 UTC  

well I feel like it was regulation that made US companies complacent

2018-08-15 21:15:01 UTC  

Also yeah, targeting ships and having literally no emissions regulations on passenger cars we'd still be coming out ahead.

2018-08-15 21:15:33 UTC  

if there had been no regulation on cars at all, the US companies would have had to compete with foreign cars anyway, and properly, without any barriers

2018-08-15 21:15:47 UTC  

so they'd have innovated sooner

2018-08-15 21:15:52 UTC  

@LOGiK Right, but they only had to compete via making their engines bigger

2018-08-15 21:16:18 UTC  

The gas crisis wasn't a thing yet, and fuel was cheap

2018-08-15 21:16:41 UTC  

More cylinders = more power. No need to make things 'efficient' or w/e lol

2018-08-15 21:17:03 UTC  

well, not really, bigger displacement means more weight

2018-08-15 21:17:05 UTC  

means worse handling

2018-08-15 21:17:14 UTC  

means slower to an extent

2018-08-15 21:17:22 UTC  

that's why smol turbo engines do so well

2018-08-15 21:17:35 UTC  

We're debating the design philosophy of automobile regions at this point

2018-08-15 21:18:32 UTC  

I'm saying that without the US regulation, US cars would have ended up being outshon by foreign cars anyway and that would have pushed them to innovate

2018-08-15 21:19:01 UTC  

I'm not saying the big displacement wouldn't have also been a thing, just that they wouldn't have gone so big and might have done smaller stuff instead to compete

2018-08-15 21:19:17 UTC  

especially if with the deletion of regulation a lot of barriers to entering the US market were removed as well

2018-08-15 21:19:39 UTC  

it's all hypothetical though sadly

2018-08-15 21:19:51 UTC  

I want a window into parallel universes