Message from @Matt

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2018-08-15 20:02:26 UTC  

darn

2018-08-15 20:52:35 UTC  

What a wild time for cars

When has it not?

and don't say the oil crisis

2018-08-15 20:56:05 UTC  

I mean it was definitely less wild when the highest output Corvettes had like 180hp

2018-08-15 20:56:59 UTC  

The early 70s emissions standards crippled all American performance cars, it wasn't about the oil crisis.

2018-08-15 20:58:29 UTC  

It continued well into the 80s

2018-08-15 20:59:16 UTC  

There were always good European performance cars through that period but not much to brag about here.

When have we not gone faster?

2018-08-15 21:01:16 UTC  

What do you mean by that?

WRC Rally Cars are as fast or faster than Group B that got banned

Gimped F1 cars are faster than old school not gimped F1 cars

2018-08-15 21:02:37 UTC  

I mean, do you really disagree that this is a wild time for cars? Like every 10 years all the journalists will say performance cars are finished and then a few years later they're crazier than ever.

no within 5 years someone will break 300mph

maybe within 2 or 3 years

there's a few people that wanna do it

2018-08-15 21:06:08 UTC  

Well maybe you don't relate to this but throughout the 60s American performance cars could be had with 400+hp in all shapes and sizes, and then in 1970 the clean air act was passed and it took decades for them to get back to that performance level while meeting emissions. Now we have more regulations than ever in every possible area and you can buy a mass produced platform from the factory with over 800hp for under 100k, that has never happened in any previous decade.

2018-08-15 21:06:16 UTC  

So I'd say that's a pretty crazy time for cars.

2018-08-15 21:06:47 UTC  

It's not like it's just been a steady climb.

I Love that act

not from a Cars angle though πŸ˜„

2018-08-15 21:07:31 UTC  

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not against the clean air act at all.

2018-08-15 21:08:03 UTC  

It put a barrier in just the right place, forcing companies to innovate

2018-08-15 21:08:05 UTC  

I'm more against the fact that engineers had such a hard time getting around it, so instead they just took the same big displacement engines and significantly lowered the performance.

2018-08-15 21:08:34 UTC  

At least initially.

engineers move slower than pencil pushers

big fucking wow

so instead of making new engine in 10mins

they just took the same big displacement engines and significantly lowered the performance.

IMAGINE MY SHOCK

2018-08-15 21:11:39 UTC  

It's not like they had the technology readily available to do that

2018-08-15 21:12:10 UTC  

I'm not talking about 10 minutes, 14 years later the Corvette still had 205hp.

2018-08-15 21:12:20 UTC  

America's premier sports car.

2018-08-15 21:12:45 UTC  

Well I'm against the clean air act

2018-08-15 21:12:55 UTC  

The Countach was on sale here during that time and had about 375.

2018-08-15 21:12:55 UTC  

make a clean air act for ships and planes, leave cars alone

2018-08-15 21:12:59 UTC  

LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE

2018-08-15 21:13:05 UTC  

And that's also the era that Japanese sports cars were overtaking American ones