Message from @✿ Mittens ✿

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2017-11-23 13:07:19 UTC  

Charles Manson was a horrible piece of shit
Death shouldn't have waited as long as he did for him. Hell won't be warm enough for him.

2017-11-23 13:09:11 UTC  

I'm not even religious, but if there is an afterlife, if hell is real, then I swear to god Charles Manson deserves to burn in there for all of eternity

2017-11-23 13:10:35 UTC  

What do you even think he did?

2017-11-23 13:10:45 UTC  

The hatred for Charles Manson is unbelievable.

2017-11-23 13:11:27 UTC  

I feel based should just come out and say what they really think

2017-11-23 13:12:06 UTC  

Just listen to styxhexenhammer666 talk a bit about the misconceptions of Charles Manson.

2017-11-23 13:13:22 UTC  

Honestly, watching people get upset over Manson is just sad. He's the generational boogyman which each generation finds as it's symbol of evil. Yet no one really knows about the circumstances surrounding the incident, they just know "he was a hippy cult leader!" "Helter Skelter!" "He has a swastica in his forehead!" "He's a mass murderer!"

2017-11-23 13:14:19 UTC  

Sweden savage

2017-11-23 13:14:34 UTC  

Honestly, it's painful every time I listen to people who basically buy into a cultural attitude towards this poor guy who's been scapegoated all his life.

2017-11-23 13:14:49 UTC  

Who the fuck is that guy

2017-11-23 13:14:54 UTC  

Charles Manson?

2017-11-23 13:15:08 UTC  

Not everybody is American m8

2017-11-23 13:15:36 UTC  

Some are canadian

2017-11-23 13:15:48 UTC  

A fucking leaf

2017-11-23 13:15:53 UTC  

Charles Manson isn't a fucking victim
The dude lead a cult which killed a pregnant woman, that's all it takes for me to hope the guy burns in hell
Get the fuck out of here with your "he was a good goy" crap

2017-11-23 13:16:06 UTC  

He wasn't a good person

2017-11-23 13:16:45 UTC  

I only say good things about the dead for example: Good he is dead

2017-11-23 13:17:05 UTC  

World is overpopulated. Issue solved. Checkmate, atheists

2017-11-23 13:17:33 UTC  

Charles Manson was just petty thief who forged some checks, stole some cars, pimped women, and dealt drugs. He got out of prison in the height of the free love era and found some disenfranchised youth to start a co-op with on a ranch. He supposedly killed a bunch of people using his brainwashed followers. However, the accounts surrounding the murders were vague and unclear, and there's speculation that the altercation was actually over drugs, and Manson's own defense attorney actually went out to a party with the prosecutor vinscent buliosci after the prosecution.

2017-11-23 13:17:44 UTC  

Sigh

2017-11-23 13:17:52 UTC  

Listen to the vegan sterilze the children

2017-11-23 13:18:11 UTC  

He was also a musician who the beach boys stole like 2 or 3 songs from.

2017-11-23 13:19:11 UTC  

And btw Happy Indian genocide day to all the Yanks here

2017-11-23 13:19:21 UTC  

What kinda evil do you need to be that the beach boys want to steal your shit?

2017-11-23 13:19:40 UTC  

Only the most satanic of satans.

2017-11-23 13:21:13 UTC  

I swear the UK is becoming a parody

2017-11-23 13:22:08 UTC  

That's another thing that bothers me though too, is the demonization of people with mental health issues. If Manson was really a murderer, let's be honest, people who murder other people aren't "normal" by the standards of what society considers normal. I really don't like how people demonize people as if they weren't just biological organisms, and they were some sort of physical manifestation of "evil" which is just a nonsense fantasy word used to describe whatever the collective considers undesirable. I think murder is wrong, but I don't look at murderers as if they were bad people, because they have something in their brain which makes them the way they are, and we have something in our brains which makes us the way we are which is why we don't murder anyone. At least, I hope no one here murders people.

2017-11-23 13:24:00 UTC  

Wut

2017-11-23 13:24:20 UTC  

Unhinged people are a treath to society

2017-11-23 13:24:40 UTC  

Murderers are in prison because they also endanger others

2017-11-23 13:24:50 UTC  

"Without agency you cannot condem" is how i sum up Mittens paragraph

2017-11-23 13:25:00 UTC  

But you have to admit that there's something fundamentally different in their brains from our brains which determines each of our disparate actions.

2017-11-23 13:25:08 UTC  

Pretty much, Dan.

2017-11-23 13:25:24 UTC  

Except, I think it's more complicated than that. Everyone does have a different brain which effects their behavior in different ways.

2017-11-23 13:25:34 UTC  

I disagree but i understand form where the argument comes from

2017-11-23 13:25:45 UTC  

And they need to keep themselfs in check

2017-11-23 13:25:53 UTC  

Even if you wanted to add the concept of free will into it, you would have to admit that some people would be more inclined to choose different behaviors than we are inclined to include disparate ones.