Message from @✿ Mittens ✿

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2017-12-06 20:15:28 UTC  

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2017-12-06 20:29:54 UTC  

DEUS VULT!

2017-12-06 21:39:05 UTC  

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2017-12-06 21:40:53 UTC  

If you want piss people of this is how you do it

2017-12-06 21:52:08 UTC  

Anarchist libertarian?

2017-12-06 21:52:16 UTC  

I don't get it.

2017-12-06 21:52:34 UTC  

Its a piss take on the flag

2017-12-06 21:53:24 UTC  

I still don't get it.

2017-12-06 21:55:11 UTC  

It is an individualist flag replaceced with collectivist meaning

2017-12-06 21:55:51 UTC  

I really don't get hung up on this whole "individualism vs collectivism" thing like you do.

2017-12-06 21:56:51 UTC  

I don't think you can dichotomize issues like that.

2017-12-06 21:56:59 UTC  

If your parrents lived under a opressive collectivist regime you would get it

2017-12-06 21:57:11 UTC  

Oh

2017-12-06 21:58:21 UTC  

Also you can dichotomize a lot of things

2017-12-06 21:58:25 UTC  

Democratic - Authoritarian
Political Left - Political Right
Open Society - Closed Society
Free Market - Central Planning
Standing Army - Drafted Army
Hawk Lobby - Dove Lobby
Interventionism - Isolationism

2017-12-06 22:07:18 UTC  

Okay, I just don't see individualism and collectivism as mutually exclusive. I think that there's certain parts of every system that benefit an individual and a collective in most systems of society.

2017-12-06 22:09:02 UTC  

Furthermore, I think that the community is the most important part of any group, because the individual cannot provide for itself without a society to depend on, the society can't survive without the state, but the state itself, like the individual, cannot suffice to provide for the common good, because the state must depend on the needs of the community if it's not to be corrupt.

2017-12-06 22:09:22 UTC  

Society is neither the individual, or the state, but the community of individuals of which depend on the state to survive.

2017-12-06 22:10:52 UTC  

This chat room is funny, because a lot of people deny that cultures exist, but it's so undeniable. Every different society has it's own individual customs and ways of operating, which develop from ways of life. This whole idea of individualism over collectivism seems so silly to me, it seems Ayn Randish. Human beings function biologically in groups, that's how human beings developed in evolution. You can't be an individualist and live as a modern man.

2017-12-06 22:11:35 UTC  

Basically you need both individualism and collectivism for society to function.

2017-12-06 22:17:29 UTC  

beeing in a group /=/ collectivism

2017-12-06 22:17:47 UTC  

Okay, then what does collectivism mean?

2017-12-06 22:18:14 UTC  

Does it means being for a commonly held belief rather than individual thought?

2017-12-06 22:18:49 UTC  

No it means prioritization of the group over self.

2017-12-06 22:19:07 UTC  

What philosophy are you citing?

2017-12-06 22:19:43 UTC  

What was told me in grammar school

2017-12-06 22:20:00 UTC  

Why do you apply the concept of collectivism to politics?

2017-12-06 22:20:41 UTC  

In what way?

2017-12-06 22:24:00 UTC  

"If your parrents lived under a opressive collectivist regime you would get it"

2017-12-06 22:24:32 UTC  

I hear the word collectivism used a lot more than in just that way.

2017-12-06 22:24:46 UTC  

Ah yes. If you badmouthed the regime you would get reprimandet

2017-12-06 22:25:14 UTC  

The work enviroment was full with snitches

2017-12-06 22:25:25 UTC  

Soy boys don’t get it

2017-12-06 22:25:45 UTC  

They don’t know real oppression

2017-12-06 22:25:46 UTC  

And the secret police could rumage thŕough your personal bellognings

2017-12-06 22:25:55 UTC  

I honestly feel endearment towards the word soy boy.

2017-12-06 22:26:36 UTC  

Oh and btw, trans people are the most oppressed group of people in America. Kids get kicked out of their parents houses for being trans all the time.

2017-12-06 22:26:51 UTC  

A large percentage of homeless youth are lgbt.

2017-12-06 22:27:09 UTC  

There's a large stigma of transphobia and homophobia, which are often falsely equated across america.

2017-12-06 22:27:21 UTC  

A lot of people can't come out to their parents because their parents are bigoted.