aka, if you werent a jew

@ITS HE-MA'AM it leads to unhealthy and unrealistic expectations that are impossible to realize, which if it were a thought experiment alone, would be fine

You cannot just strip away emotion, however, nor should you wish to.

But besides that there are two main camps, so I cannot fairly blanket it

Willpower alone can only get you so far

@Fitzydog jews got effected by Hellenic culture during the hashmonean kingdom

Adopted Greek as the second language since most of the known world spoke Greek that time adopted feasts during holidays their construction style let women become rulers etc

@EnderOctanus those are some solid arguments. Willpower is way too overrated you need a system to defeat addictions

Rationalism realism and pragmatism are the only ways

Well, I'm glad y'all gained something from the West.

The west is based on the judeo christian values and christian traditions mainly

And both were invented by jews

And why do you think that Greeks are part of the west ?

They are literally at eastern Europe

Because the Romans stole their culture

Because they're on the Western side of the sea from Turkey?

And the Greeks had some colonies west of Italy

And the greeks stole their culture and genetics from phoenicians kek

The Aegean sea is the dividing line

Is he claiming the jews invented everything, like the greeks always do?

the greeks invented autism

UwU

@EnderOctanus Yes, I believe he is

https://youtu.be/zQVx1w4EfVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpWnufgQy0g

pretty fucking nuts how much effort went into a show that only played 30 times total

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEw8c6TmzGg&feature=share

there was a great video that i saw recently that showed just how warlike and power hungry the natives were, and it really puts things more into perspective about those times, and i think just that fact alone diminishes any justifiable outrage about Columbus. Unfortunately i cant find the video, but i'm sure any historical source of the native people people would be sufficient.

@AlanPowell The dude sought out preteen girls for sex slavery. Nothing can diminish his acttions. He was also in complete command of the expedition, sp EVERYTHING his men did, was PERMITTED by him, making him directly responsible for the rape of countless girls.

He even casually notes how popular the 8 year olds are, and how high of a price they go for.

I wouldn't give a shit if they only raped adult or even older teen women, because frankly that's just what people did back then. But they were fucking children even by the standards of the time.

we talked about this before

I frankly don't even care that they enslaved the women. Conquerors do that shit. But the kids.

the point i'm trying to make is if he was any worse than the other people around back then

That is a wilfull act of evil that no culture would accept, not even back then.

is that so?

It was criminal to rape children, yes.

You would be executed in Spain.

So they clearly did not see it as an acceptable spoil of war. The older girls were probably fine to do whatever with, they were property. But the people sent missionaries to convert the savages. You do not do that if you think they're literally just animals

ok

So there was also clearly a line to be drawn. If you can cohvert someone, then killing them is also murder. And raping them is also adultery. Just by a religious arguement alone.