UK doesn't have freedom like US

Sad

rights 1. cannot violate the rights of other people and 2. exist in a vacuum exterior to the intervention of others i.e. medical care

There is a difference between murder and self-defense.

yes

its called a 2nd shot

They both leave a dead person

From what I understood, the guy got arrested because he chased after the burglars after they were running away. Excessive force.

self defense is legal because you have a right to self-preservation

Only a moron would fire once at an assailant

exactly

in the US this is part of the second amendment and stand your ground laws

although don't get me wrong, there is far more to 2A than self defense

I'm pretty sure you can't run after the burglars and keep shooting at them, after they're retreating.

the way its looked at here in general (in the uk, incase you didnt notice)

by the time the police show up, you're already dead, if you even were able to call them.

is its based on a sitation

like. if a burgular came in

thats because the UK is a nanny state

you have no rights

and you grabbed a fireplace ornament and whacked him over the head

once

killing him

obviously not run after them, thats why its a stand your ground.

what little the government lets you do is backed up by nothing at all

Oh God Dammit are we back on the rights thing again?

"oh well, shit happens"

its the 2nd hit that will get you

In Germany there's no "excessive force" until the threat ends.

Also, it's called Castle doctrine

if the UK government wanted to simply ignore all your rights and set up a police state there is nothing you could do to stop it

Or something like that, Joerg from the Slingshot Channel said it.

@radeon there is, but thats kind of out of the subject

such as?

I have the legal right to defend myself and my property

what are you gonna do, report the police to the police? write a strongly worded letter to your MP?

The US has also done draconian steps toward it, remember the PATRIOT act?

Complain to the US lol

"free man of the land"

the patriot act is indefensible yea

yeah, I fucking hate that shit, and want it gone