Message from @DanielKO

Discord ID: 384496460386926603


2017-11-26 23:49:52 UTC  

dafuq is happening?

2017-11-26 23:49:53 UTC  

gay

2017-11-26 23:50:27 UTC  

Also happens in a different browser, not logged in, with no cookies.

2017-11-26 23:50:55 UTC  

Did somebody googlebombed youtube?

2017-11-26 23:51:05 UTC  

Let us check /pol/ and /b/ for clues.

2017-11-26 23:51:46 UTC  

IDK but it is wierd

2017-11-26 23:52:24 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/384491613994614785/Screenshot_from_2017-11-26_21-52-02.png

2017-11-26 23:52:32 UTC  

lmao

2017-11-26 23:52:37 UTC  

I'm looking at the guys tabs

2017-11-26 23:52:47 UTC  

Wikipedia page for "Wild Cabbage"

2017-11-26 23:58:51 UTC  

stardew valley

2017-11-26 23:59:25 UTC  

wait

2017-11-26 23:59:26 UTC  

nvm

2017-11-27 00:07:51 UTC  

I know what philosophy is I'm not saying it's invalid it just isn't scientific

2017-11-27 00:08:00 UTC  

It's speculation

2017-11-27 00:09:56 UTC  

wut

2017-11-27 00:10:10 UTC  

No, philosophy isn't science. It's not non-science either.

2017-11-27 00:10:50 UTC  

It's principles you use to think and communicate. You need them to do science, you need them to reason, to do politics, even to do arts.

2017-11-27 00:11:34 UTC  

Yes, ancient philosophers thought they could figure out nature by just thinking really hard about it.

2017-11-27 00:11:39 UTC  

That part wasn't science.

2017-11-27 00:13:46 UTC  

I can figure out nature by thinking really hard about it.

2017-11-27 00:14:19 UTC  

Yes but the second you start actually forming legitimate hypothesis with fail and success states that follow the scientific method you are no longer doing philosophy

2017-11-27 00:14:24 UTC  

Maybe you're outside of the inane endless struggle of humanity.

2017-11-27 00:14:58 UTC  

Philosophical ideas need not be necessarily unscientific but they are speculation by definition

2017-11-27 00:15:10 UTC  

Logic still came from philosophy.

2017-11-27 00:15:30 UTC  

Ok, but that doesn't mean it's science

2017-11-27 00:15:39 UTC  

Logic isn't science.

2017-11-27 00:15:50 UTC  

But you better derive your scientific conclusions with logic.

2017-11-27 00:16:14 UTC  

Yea

2017-11-27 00:16:42 UTC  

Philosophy was also important in figuring out that seemingly logical constructs can construct absurd inquiries. We call them paradoxes.

2017-11-27 00:17:24 UTC  

In Computer Sciences, this shows up as undecidable problems.

2017-11-27 00:24:25 UTC  

e.g. "I'm lying"

2017-11-27 00:25:21 UTC  

I'm not quite sure how to respond, because it obviously depends on the subject matter and also - whether we like it or not - how you've grown to interpret "paradox", but I've never considered undecidable problems in computing to be paradoxes at all

2017-11-27 00:26:02 UTC  

to me, a paradox is when you start with a reasonable preposition or whatever, and then the conclusion is not what you'd expect

2017-11-27 00:26:04 UTC  

roughly speaking

2017-11-27 00:27:10 UTC  

Undecidable problems are questions that describe problems in a way that make them appear answerable, but they aren't.

2017-11-27 00:27:30 UTC  

oh, then we disagree on what an undecidable problem is

2017-11-27 00:27:55 UTC  

"An algorithm that can check if a program enters an infinite loop or eventually stops."

2017-11-27 00:28:16 UTC  

right

2017-11-27 00:28:21 UTC  

that's not a paradox