Message from @A Random Crusader
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So not really a similar argument
How about drawings of scat.
And that type of shit actually happens
How about watersports?
In most states no
Not sure about Europe
It's funny that it's technically illegal in the US yet that stops...literally no one
How about whatever-vomit-porn-is-called?
Again, live humans vs drawings
It's perfectly fine to draw someone getting killed but it's not ok to kill someone
Fantasy vs Reality
Real fucking simple
I think we're in violent agreement on this
What's even more hilarious is that he made the statement that porn is an indulgence, while wasting time posting on discord
Yeah, but the point I'm making is, what defines the line, once we hypothetically agree to ban imaginary degeneracy.
The hypocrisy is alarming
@DanielKO When it is targeted towards a specific person without their consent
That's essentially how the division works
How can you tell if a drawing gave consent?
Not my area of expertise but if it's like most forms of law it's one hell of a grey area at times
That goes into defamation
Which you can make a case around
If the person doesn't exist you legally can't do shit
Well, if I draw a completely fictitious character, being raped by another completely fictitious character.
Then you did nothing wrong in the eyes of the law
Yes, that's my point. Once you're in fantasy land, fantasy land doesn't work like the real world.
I never said anything to the contrary
Even that's a gray area.
I specifically said as long as the person doesn't exist legally it's fine
You can base a drawing on a real person and not have it _really_ be them
So even if we all unanimously say, "loli hentai is disgusting, we should ban it"... we can't enforce it. Same for imaginary rape, or imaginary anything.
Eg: literally any porn of the MCU characters, who are all played by real people
@LordCaledus they can file a defamation suit if they consider it to be incredibly offensive but even then the case wouldn't do well
And then you have the...what is it again?
The trope where attempting to quash something makes it hugely popular instead
For example what blizzard did to Overwatch porn
How they made that into a massive fiasco
Streisand Effect
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