Message from @AiarUther

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2018-07-06 15:12:22 UTC  

and an authoritarian will maintain whatever status quo is most beneficial to maintaining his power

2018-07-06 15:12:30 UTC  

whether it's "new" or "old"

2018-07-06 15:12:57 UTC  

but my point is that being a left wing libertarian is a meme

2018-07-06 15:13:04 UTC  

it doesn't exist

2018-07-06 15:13:09 UTC  

It does.

2018-07-06 15:13:22 UTC  

It just isn't what's popular today.

2018-07-06 15:13:44 UTC  

oh it's popular indeed with people who think it exists

2018-07-06 15:13:51 UTC  

like ancoms and anti-fa

2018-07-06 15:14:13 UTC  

but when have ancoms and anti-fa been anything but authoritarians?

2018-07-06 15:14:22 UTC  

That is extremism, libertarian extremism.

2018-07-06 15:14:27 UTC  

Not left extremism.

2018-07-06 15:14:38 UTC  

it's not libertarian though

2018-07-06 15:14:41 UTC  

Anarchy = Max libertarian.

2018-07-06 15:14:43 UTC  

it's authoritarian

2018-07-06 15:14:44 UTC  

Yes, it is.

2018-07-06 15:15:02 UTC  

the desire to control others through violence is authoritarian

2018-07-06 15:15:05 UTC  

It means completely free of government.

2018-07-06 15:15:10 UTC  

Zero government.

2018-07-06 15:15:13 UTC  

My mind cannot be changed on that fact

2018-07-06 15:15:15 UTC  

All controlled by the people.

2018-07-06 15:15:49 UTC  

but controlling others through violence is a de-facto government

2018-07-06 15:16:03 UTC  

No, that's just public uprising.

2018-07-06 15:16:06 UTC  

a government really is just a gang with more legitimacy

2018-07-06 15:16:41 UTC  

the fundamental difference between a democratic government and other forms of government in concept is that the democratic government can be held accountable

2018-07-06 15:17:04 UTC  

Democracy is just two wolves and a sheep deciding what is for dinner

2018-07-06 15:17:22 UTC  

having a majority agree with you doesn't give you the right to perform atrocities

2018-07-06 15:17:34 UTC  

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2018-07-06 15:18:12 UTC  

governments don't usually tell their people they want to commit atrocities

2018-07-06 15:18:33 UTC  

Ancoms themselves to be honest, are not living in a very pragmatic world in my opinion. You can't tax people without everyone wanting to be taxed, thus you'd need a form of governmental body.

2018-07-06 15:18:35 UTC  

the nazis ran on the platform on deporting the jews and that was always their public explanation

2018-07-06 15:18:37 UTC  

but if a majority of people want to commit an attrocity, does that make it right?

2018-07-06 15:18:42 UTC  

next to labour camps

2018-07-06 15:18:43 UTC  

Which is antithesis to the whole anarchist part.

2018-07-06 15:18:52 UTC  

noone ever voted for extermination

2018-07-06 15:18:58 UTC  

Ancap is the only real anarchy

2018-07-06 15:19:00 UTC  

and that's the same for all democratically voted for atrocities

2018-07-06 15:19:15 UTC  

It's also why many people were executed for 'not being dedicated enough' in the rise of the SU.

2018-07-06 15:19:30 UTC  

"dirty reactionary scum"

2018-07-06 15:19:38 UTC  

Ancap is even more ridiculous.

2018-07-06 15:19:43 UTC  

how?

2018-07-06 15:19:51 UTC  

it is at least internally consistent