Message from @Fitzydog
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Others here may have a problem with it, but I don't see how this violates any principles. You're making a contract with the state, and having a child breaks that contract.
The question is, how do you enforce that, and is it possible to be enforced? Are the people on welfare, who are now even more poor because of having a second child, going to pay a fine? Jail time? What?
They could be take off welfare if they have a second child or continue on welfare if they get there tubes tied or a vasectomy
Good luck getting anything like that agreed upon by a majority of people
Lmao. If it were to be passed, I feel like it would be the best way to shift the population to traits that capitalism deems is best
You won't even make it past twitter
According to the washpo [first thing that comes up on google] only 21.3% of people are on welfare. I think if people didn't instantly infer this to be an attack on POC it would stand a chance. Even though arguing against this policy based on racism is basically saying POC's have no agency. I think anyone who advocates this policy would be instantly deemed a racist.
What would be the argument against this policy other than you are racist?
"I'm a good person, but the feel good policies are the ones that are bad for civilization!"
don't you fucking love humanity
I mean, if you want to be on welfare, chances are you don't want kids
but both sides are like NO I KNOW WHATS BEST FOR PEOPLE
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and they talk while food falls out of their fucking mouths
thanks gun cat
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Shweed, just get on twitter anyway
doesn't matter what the cucks on the right and left say
@What Would Jack Conte Do? People on welfare are more incentivized to have children because they receive additional benefits for each child they have
If the policy i proposed wouldn't pass eliminating welfare definitely wouldn't. There would be riots if you outright eliminated welfare. My proposed policy would atleast sustain those who are on it while preventing the birth of more future welfare recipients.
Elimination of welfare or My proposed policy?
Your solution
Its a bar cinvo solution
Convo
(there's an edit button dude lol)
I think it would be less than out right elimination of welfare, and the continuation of current welfare problem is just allows the problem to grow
What would be the non bar convo solution?
Eliminate welfare, or watch the system collapse.
Eliminating welfare would cause mass riots and watching the system collapse would lead to dumping of even more tax money into the system until we are all fucked
There needs to be a weening off period or we are fucked either way
This is an "is-ought" discussion right now
In plain english?
googled it you dont have to explain
Isn't the outright elimination of welfare the is-ought argument?
Doesn't my policy provide a path way to go from welfare to a diminished if not eliminated welfare state by not allowing people who require welfare to breed at above replacement rates
No, you're stating that welfare *ought* to be taken away slowly.
I'm saying that the welfare state *will* collapse. Either the welfare, or the state.
It *doesn't* go on. No one will ease the fall. No one will try.
Do you know how to invite people to the discord? And do you know what gets people's name on the right? Joined discord yesterday so im a noob
no u
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Wouldn't any political policy end in an is-ought problem? could you give me an example of one that doesn't?
No, I can't. Most are.
It's policy, and rarely does it ever achieve what was intended