Message from @What Would Jack Conte Do?

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2018-07-24 00:37:57 UTC  

make me so horny

2018-07-24 02:21:18 UTC  

What is your opinion on a policy that would limit a person to one child if that person if that person accepted welfare?

2018-07-24 02:21:53 UTC  

Can you expand?

2018-07-24 02:32:46 UTC  

If you are currently receiving welfare from the state you are not allowed to have more than one child. It is essentially China's one child policy but only applied to those who receive state welfare

2018-07-24 02:34:47 UTC  

Others here may have a problem with it, but I don't see how this violates any principles. You're making a contract with the state, and having a child breaks that contract.

The question is, how do you enforce that, and is it possible to be enforced? Are the people on welfare, who are now even more poor because of having a second child, going to pay a fine? Jail time? What?

2018-07-24 02:36:25 UTC  

They could be take off welfare if they have a second child or continue on welfare if they get there tubes tied or a vasectomy

2018-07-24 02:37:01 UTC  

Good luck getting anything like that agreed upon by a majority of people

2018-07-24 02:38:36 UTC  

Lmao. If it were to be passed, I feel like it would be the best way to shift the population to traits that capitalism deems is best

2018-07-24 02:39:04 UTC  

You won't even make it past twitter

2018-07-24 02:44:59 UTC  

According to the washpo [first thing that comes up on google] only 21.3% of people are on welfare. I think if people didn't instantly infer this to be an attack on POC it would stand a chance. Even though arguing against this policy based on racism is basically saying POC's have no agency. I think anyone who advocates this policy would be instantly deemed a racist.

2018-07-24 02:50:23 UTC  

What would be the argument against this policy other than you are racist?

2018-07-24 03:18:49 UTC  

"I'm a good person, but the feel good policies are the ones that are bad for civilization!"

2018-07-24 03:18:52 UTC  

don't you fucking love humanity

2018-07-24 03:19:00 UTC  

I mean, if you want to be on welfare, chances are you don't want kids

2018-07-24 03:19:09 UTC  

but both sides are like NO I KNOW WHATS BEST FOR PEOPLE

2018-07-24 03:19:19 UTC  

^

2018-07-24 03:19:21 UTC  

and they talk while food falls out of their fucking mouths

2018-07-24 03:19:29 UTC  

thanks gun cat

2018-07-24 03:19:30 UTC  

avatar

2018-07-24 03:20:09 UTC  

Shweed, just get on twitter anyway

2018-07-24 03:20:18 UTC  

doesn't matter what the cucks on the right and left say

2018-07-24 03:34:22 UTC  

@What Would Jack Conte Do? People on welfare are more incentivized to have children because they receive additional benefits for each child they have

2018-07-24 03:35:05 UTC  

@Shweed Solution: Eliminate welfare.

2018-07-24 03:39:26 UTC  

If the policy i proposed wouldn't pass eliminating welfare definitely wouldn't. There would be riots if you outright eliminated welfare. My proposed policy would atleast sustain those who are on it while preventing the birth of more future welfare recipients.

2018-07-24 03:40:21 UTC  

Yeah, sounds like a pipe dream that would cause more social problems than it solved

2018-07-24 03:40:46 UTC  

Elimination of welfare or My proposed policy?

2018-07-24 03:40:56 UTC  

Your solution

2018-07-24 03:41:49 UTC  

Its a bar cinvo solution

2018-07-24 03:41:52 UTC  

Convo

2018-07-24 03:42:32 UTC  

(there's an edit button dude lol)

2018-07-24 03:42:48 UTC  

I think it would be less than out right elimination of welfare, and the continuation of current welfare problem is just allows the problem to grow

2018-07-24 03:43:56 UTC  

What would be the non bar convo solution?

2018-07-24 03:44:14 UTC  

Eliminate welfare, or watch the system collapse.

2018-07-24 03:45:22 UTC  

Eliminating welfare would cause mass riots and watching the system collapse would lead to dumping of even more tax money into the system until we are all fucked

2018-07-24 03:45:44 UTC  

There needs to be a weening off period or we are fucked either way

2018-07-24 03:46:12 UTC  

This is an "is-ought" discussion right now

2018-07-24 03:46:32 UTC  

In plain english?

2018-07-24 03:47:20 UTC  

googled it you dont have to explain

2018-07-24 03:55:08 UTC  

Isn't the outright elimination of welfare the is-ought argument?

Doesn't my policy provide a path way to go from welfare to a diminished if not eliminated welfare state by not allowing people who require welfare to breed at above replacement rates

2018-07-24 03:56:44 UTC  

No, you're stating that welfare *ought* to be taken away slowly.

I'm saying that the welfare state *will* collapse. Either the welfare, or the state.

It *doesn't* go on. No one will ease the fall. No one will try.

2018-07-24 04:00:11 UTC  

Do you know how to invite people to the discord? And do you know what gets people's name on the right? Joined discord yesterday so im a noob