Message from @AsianMessiah
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You said that the states function is to protect its citizens property
I didn't say how though
fair, i assumed you implied taxation
In reality, the state only protects rights, and included in that is a citizens right to protect his property. Protection from foreign invaders is separate from that.
You can do this completely by yourself requiring no outside help, and the state only has to protect the 'framework' in which disputes are handled.
Namely, that's a court system. So you can have private arbiters, all using the same 'law standard' and that would be a 'state'.
a necessary feature of a state however is that it has the monopoly on "insert service here" over a geographical region. Therefore private alternatives are not possible
Is that necessary?
yes
The only monoply it needs to have, is that of laws, and national defense
Ok, granted those for the moment
Would this state engage in other activities besides from these services?
That all depends on your constitution, and the limitations it has within
It shouldn't have to
would the governnment be crowding out any other company from the markets it enters
if its funded through taxation?
What market is it entering?
lets say schools for example
Why is it controlling the schools?
That's not its job
According to the nations constitution its allowed to operate publically funded schools
That's your own problem, bud. We're talking about the hypothetical here
at all
because it crowds out alternatives
Yeah, I agree
Common defense, and a lawbook should not be marketable though
So ur a minarchist with the exceptions of Laws and Borders?
That *is* a minarchist. The necessary minimum.
Laws and borders are the only legitimate domain of the state
Would your "laws" include an executie, legislativa and judiciary branch?
That's all unnecessary overhead. What's the point of it?
Just print a lawbook.
would they need enforcement though (Executive)
People use private arbitration all the time, and when are you ever dealing with a federal entity in law?
ICE? an example off the top of my head of america
IDRK im not american
Border patrol?
Yes i guess so
So would you agree with the Saga period icelandic model of libertarianism where laws were decided by the state but they would needed to be enforced privately?
idk what that is, but sure. Common law, and common defense.
so a legislative branch only and border patrol?
Why even have a branch? Seriously?
just a placeholder