@Kscope Maybe you got here later than we did

We were initially talking about welfare but you did say "everything but the military"

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So that was perhaps easy to misunderstand 🤔

We were talking about welfare versus charity

You said everything

Also, there's a difference between federal, and local government

And national government

Private isnt local government

Local government is not a part of the private sector

@Ruggwain Anyways, I'm going to continue conversing with you

Sure thing

Hon hon hon. Vous êtes le petit rongeur communiste qui marche dans les rues a le globe

Why have government in the first place?

Because the private sector can't do everything

We have a mixed system of private and state here. You can for a some extra cost get more personalised private healthcare, so there is no welfare monopoly

@Ruggwain I'm just under the opinion that the government is inherently inefficient and ineffective compared to the free market

In the social market welfare system

The government is inherently inefficient and ineffective but you are relying on factors that are against human nature

@Fitzydog you said that in regards to EVERYTHING except for military, do you stand by that claim?

Civilisation is gay. I'm waiting for the nukes to drop so I can finally have my anprim paradise.

You can't expect the church to give shelter to every homeless person around the country

@Kscope I don't owe you a god damned thing, greyfag. I'm having a discussion here.

+reintegration etc

Im asking you to justify your claims, its in your perogative to justify them if you want to prove you're correct

@Ruggwain I can't expect the gov't to do the same for any less, or better

@Kscope I think he just couldn't be bothered to write every single exception and maybe you shouldn't grandstand on such a nitpicky thing

Its not nitpicky though, hes making an ancap argument

Well, social housing is on a grander and more effective scale

im asking him to justify this, if he doesnt actually believe that then he should say he doesnt

@Ruggwain Yes, but who pays for it?

The government is ineffective but expecting the church to fulfill functions outside of their perview is even worse

there's a lot of fucking people who believe that the governments only job is to protect the borders

@Ruggwain Church, NGO, non profit, you name it

Everyone pays for it because everyone benefits

@Kscope Nigga what?

@xX_NotVergil_Xx Ancap's believe that the role of government is purely defense

The free market doesn't even have interest in sustaining these things. What interest does the free market have in social benefits?

piss off ancaps, you only want to seek capitalist monarchy not democracy.

@Ruggwain Okay, but is the gov't better at negotiating lower construction costs, bidding out contractors, etc?

I've been saying it for years. Anarcho-Fascism is the way to go.