Message from @xX_NotVergil_Xx
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Nigga 🤣
The social safety net has the moral highground no matter what the pragmatic arguments are
Because I am providing money to charity under my own free will, versus being told to do it by a welfare monopoly that spends it inefficiently
But we're not only talking about welfare
we're also talking about things along the lines of police and firefighters
infrastructure
We were initially talking about welfare but you did say "everything but the military"
So that was perhaps easy to misunderstand 🤔
We were talking about welfare versus charity
You said everything
Also, there's a difference between federal, and local government
And national government
Private isnt local government
Local government is not a part of the private sector
Sure thing
Hon hon hon. Vous êtes le petit rongeur communiste qui marche dans les rues a le globe
Because the private sector can't do everything
We have a mixed system of private and state here. You can for a some extra cost get more personalised private healthcare, so there is no welfare monopoly
@Ruggwain I'm just under the opinion that the government is inherently inefficient and ineffective compared to the free market
In the social market welfare system
The government is inherently inefficient and ineffective but you are relying on factors that are against human nature
@Fitzydog you said that in regards to EVERYTHING except for military, do you stand by that claim?
Civilisation is gay. I'm waiting for the nukes to drop so I can finally have my anprim paradise.
You can't expect the church to give shelter to every homeless person around the country
@Kscope I don't owe you a god damned thing, greyfag. I'm having a discussion here.
+reintegration etc
Im asking you to justify your claims, its in your perogative to justify them if you want to prove you're correct
@Ruggwain I can't expect the gov't to do the same for any less, or better
@Kscope I think he just couldn't be bothered to write every single exception and maybe you shouldn't grandstand on such a nitpicky thing
Its not nitpicky though, hes making an ancap argument
Well, social housing is on a grander and more effective scale
im asking him to justify this, if he doesnt actually believe that then he should say he doesnt
The government is ineffective but expecting the church to fulfill functions outside of their perview is even worse
there's a lot of fucking people who believe that the governments only job is to protect the borders