Message from @Omsomething

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2018-08-16 18:46:21 UTC  

A lot of things are nonsense, but you must understand such things if you want to talk about them.

2018-08-16 18:46:47 UTC  

This is literally the kind of ideology I am willing to defend against with violence.

2018-08-16 18:47:05 UTC  

Which part?

2018-08-16 18:48:05 UTC  

Pan nationalism, destruction of individual cultures

2018-08-16 18:49:10 UTC  

sweden should still annex all of scandinavia tho

2018-08-16 18:49:34 UTC  

This is not a bad thing to stand against, but what i would ask. How about tribal identities which are repressed by nations? Would you have stood against Nationalism when nations were formed from groups which had differing views?

2018-08-16 18:49:51 UTC  

Large things we have now have not always been as so.

2018-08-16 18:49:57 UTC  

@Omsomething Differing views don't create nations.

2018-08-16 18:50:06 UTC  

That's why this is a bad idea

2018-08-16 18:50:25 UTC  

Otherwise it's imperialism

2018-08-16 18:51:06 UTC  

So you would stand for groups leaving nations as they choose? Lets say if That Indian nation which has such aspirations in US?

2018-08-16 18:51:19 UTC  

Yes?

2018-08-16 18:51:41 UTC  

Freedom of association

2018-08-16 18:52:02 UTC  

Good, and how about those groups which used to want to leave but have been brought to heel with force and are compliant with the culture now?

2018-08-16 18:52:17 UTC  

Regrettable in hindsight.

2018-08-16 18:52:51 UTC  

"Regrettable in hindsight."

Is what most strong nations have in plenty.

2018-08-16 18:53:26 UTC  

Yes. I bet you regret not assimilating into the Soviet Union to create a larger, new culture.

2018-08-16 18:53:44 UTC  

Bhahahaha ahh no. Shoot in the face.

2018-08-16 18:54:02 UTC  

So much for erasing cultures

2018-08-16 18:55:59 UTC  

It is something which happens and one must consider. Small groups and nations will always be crushed under the heel if they do not work with the greater wholes. If EU will not pan out or is rejected what is left? Waning star of the US or Russia.

2018-08-16 18:56:57 UTC  

If Finland had not keeled and heeled on the right moment in the right way Finland would not have had peace terms it had and it would have been crushed.

2018-08-16 18:58:27 UTC  

Is that how you think international politics works these days?

2018-08-16 18:58:47 UTC  

I am looking at Ukraine, not going well there.

2018-08-16 18:59:16 UTC  

You think the US would try and imperialize Europe?

2018-08-16 18:59:53 UTC  

Not really, US is waning empire. I think EU is trying to make United States of Europe.

2018-08-16 19:00:28 UTC  

Why would you want that?

2018-08-16 19:03:02 UTC  

I do not want that, but it is an strong thing which can happen. What small nations WANT matters less than nothing really. If Germany and France will push for slow gradual integration it is something which is really hard to stop, and doing so might leave those said nations to the spheres of influence of less good actors.

I am not sure if you are being wilfully ignorant that you cannot get all you want and that not all nations are protected by ridiculous amounts of weapons and nukes?

2018-08-16 19:04:27 UTC  

Sounds like you should probably get some weapons then, like Switzerland.

2018-08-16 19:05:23 UTC  

Yeah, you try to prepare to ~~Russian~~ some nations Tank Batallions with population of 5m or so. Few assault rifles at home just does not cut it.

2018-08-16 19:05:49 UTC  

I think Russias expansionist days are over, tbh

2018-08-16 19:06:19 UTC  

It's more trouble than it's worth to just annex random nations

2018-08-16 19:07:44 UTC  

Spheres of influence still exist, and since Finland was part of the Empire era as Grand Duchy Pan-Slavists consider it their soil.

2018-08-16 19:08:05 UTC  

Hmm, valid point.

2018-08-16 19:08:17 UTC  

God I love it when this man shitposts...

2018-08-16 19:58:33 UTC  

black βœ… democrat βœ… racist βœ…

2018-08-16 21:50:59 UTC  

One of these days these nut jobs are going to understand that it's racist to say certain races can't be racist. Hmmm... that's a tongue twister. XD

2018-08-16 21:52:51 UTC  

They probably won't.