Message from @Fitzydog
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Respect for another person's culture, while protecting your own, is the only peaceful way to move forward. Otherwise you're fighting for control
I had a dicussion about "Human culture" with someone not too long ago. He was really opposed to cultures being real. Quite interesting if you take that there is such a thing as "human culture" and then ask how it is seperate from "animal culture".
It's nonsense
>cultures not being real
A lot of things are nonsense, but you must understand such things if you want to talk about them.
This is literally the kind of ideology I am willing to defend against with violence.
Which part?
Pan nationalism, destruction of individual cultures
sweden should still annex all of scandinavia tho
This is not a bad thing to stand against, but what i would ask. How about tribal identities which are repressed by nations? Would you have stood against Nationalism when nations were formed from groups which had differing views?
Large things we have now have not always been as so.
@Omsomething Differing views don't create nations.
That's why this is a bad idea
Otherwise it's imperialism
So you would stand for groups leaving nations as they choose? Lets say if That Indian nation which has such aspirations in US?
Yes?
Freedom of association
Good, and how about those groups which used to want to leave but have been brought to heel with force and are compliant with the culture now?
Regrettable in hindsight.
"Regrettable in hindsight."
Is what most strong nations have in plenty.
Bhahahaha ahh no. Shoot in the face.
So much for erasing cultures
It is something which happens and one must consider. Small groups and nations will always be crushed under the heel if they do not work with the greater wholes. If EU will not pan out or is rejected what is left? Waning star of the US or Russia.
If Finland had not keeled and heeled on the right moment in the right way Finland would not have had peace terms it had and it would have been crushed.
Is that how you think international politics works these days?
I am looking at Ukraine, not going well there.
You think the US would try and imperialize Europe?
Not really, US is waning empire. I think EU is trying to make United States of Europe.
Why would you want that?
I do not want that, but it is an strong thing which can happen. What small nations WANT matters less than nothing really. If Germany and France will push for slow gradual integration it is something which is really hard to stop, and doing so might leave those said nations to the spheres of influence of less good actors.
I am not sure if you are being wilfully ignorant that you cannot get all you want and that not all nations are protected by ridiculous amounts of weapons and nukes?
Sounds like you should probably get some weapons then, like Switzerland.
Yeah, you try to prepare to ~~Russian~~ some nations Tank Batallions with population of 5m or so. Few assault rifles at home just does not cut it.
I think Russias expansionist days are over, tbh
It's more trouble than it's worth to just annex random nations
Spheres of influence still exist, and since Finland was part of the Empire era as Grand Duchy Pan-Slavists consider it their soil.
Hmm, valid point.
God I love it when this man shitposts...