Message from @Thomas the Sowell Train [USA]
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Pretty much, conservative and libertarian.
Which in my opinion are the two political ideologies worth debating between.
and it said if you want to make a person conservative over night, make him rich
yea I lean as a right leaning liberteran. I want freedom to do what ever I want reasonable inside the law and that my government dont spend my tax money like a drunk sailor on shore leave
You've got Mises and Cato, both Libertarian think tanks full of economists
You see any socialist think tanks full of economists?
kenyesians aren't economists
change my mind
most of the socialist think tanks I have seen is full of hippes and delusinal dreamers that have not been outside since 1976
Conservatives and libertarians just disagree on things like military interventionism, military spending, military deterrents, trade, and social liberalism. Probably either system would sustain a society just fine but the debate is about which would be best to promote freedom.
Oh, I guess I should include immigration if we're including all the libertarians.
This is an excerpt from a really good talk on the disparities of opinion between Economists and the general public https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du2TTDEb5AY
@Fitzydog there are think tanks with economists in them
As @Deleted User says, Keynesians aren't real economists lol
Well
why is that?
What's wrong with Keynesianism?
They think you can plan an economy. It's essentially socialism wrapped in mathematics, to try and get what they want
Keynesian theory is valid and proven
though not *planning* the economy, it is more of "jumpstarting" it
Keynesians believe that the economy is demand driven, and that using government expenditure you increase said demand
Ehh....
I'm a fan of Austrian economics, tbh
Makes the most sense
I think a mix of keynes and Hayek would make the most sense
Internal free trade with government spending where it is nessesary
And some protectionist measures internationally
@Thomas the Sowell Train [USA] FDR's New Deal, though before Keynes published his *General Theory of Labour, Interest and Money* showed how important government intervention could be, in a time dominated by classical and austrian economics
the latter theories, being the reason the economy went bust
*The New Deal??*
Not to mention Germany's 2008 massive fiscal expansionist measures
Whenever Kenyesian economic policies fail, Kenyesian Economists just proclaim that's just the market
Keynesians policies fail because of ill planning and lack of foresight
FDR's socialist make-work program he instigated after he wrecked the economy, from his own policies?
Just like a *certain* other group
the new deal was trash
How did he wreck the economy?
By extending a depression
What are they teaching in schools these days
If he had been hands off, things wouldn't have been nearly as bad
on the contrary