Message from @DanConway

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I will shove Spitfires up their ass before I vote remain again

2018-09-21 12:12:38 UTC  

@Capitán Alatriste Spain was an interesting place, I stopped in a bar for a snack after a long drive and they had Murals of Lenin

2018-09-21 12:12:51 UTC  

heh, where?

2018-09-21 12:12:55 UTC  

A lot of poverty outside the city

2018-09-21 12:12:59 UTC  

Rota

2018-09-21 12:13:35 UTC  

The Wall built by the Romans was interesting, and some of the old Mosques

2018-09-21 12:14:03 UTC  

Southern Spain has the most economically deprived regions. They are also mostly left leaning, curiously also have the most "Spanish" feeling people

2018-09-21 12:14:58 UTC  

Lol this does not surprise me, I only regret not going to see the bull fight. Although i did have a steak that was amazing down there 😍

2018-09-21 12:16:30 UTC  

Bull fighting is quite a divisive issue in Spain. Since southern Spain is the more traditionalist they embrace it, however more parts of Spain are starting to abolish it

2018-09-21 12:16:30 UTC  

one of the main reason why Catalonia do want to leave Spain is that they are fed up feeding tax money to the rest of Spain that is a black hole for money to go in to and disappear for good

2018-09-21 12:17:23 UTC  

Opinions on Catalonia?

2018-09-21 12:18:27 UTC  

I do not support in any way the independence movement of Catalonia. It is probably one the few times I lean more nationalist where I support the need for unified nationalist Spanish sentiment.

2018-09-21 12:20:34 UTC  

I do believe that every region in Spain has the right to and ought be proud of their heritage and their culture, however above all they are Spanish.

2018-09-21 12:21:05 UTC  

What about the referendum, should it have been prevented even if it was only symbolic (wouldnt have done anything)

2018-09-21 12:22:02 UTC  

I do approve of the need of a referendum, but one that is legally binding, bilateral and approved by the constitutional court. One where the entirety of Catalonia's voice is heard.

2018-09-21 12:23:11 UTC  

The referendum that took place was the contrary of this, it was a unilateral and illegal act. It was illegally financed, organised and put into action

2018-09-21 12:23:17 UTC  

they did not help that they did send in the military to calm things down, the Spanish government did only put fuel on the fire in the end

2018-09-21 12:23:35 UTC  

The military was not sent in. It was the national police and civil guard

2018-09-21 12:24:32 UTC  

And I agree, the previous conservative government led by Mariano Rajoy did little to nothing to de-escalate the tensions and social divides. It acted in the last minute, with a rash and inappropriate manner

2018-09-21 12:24:33 UTC  

Is that like the US's national guard?

2018-09-21 12:25:03 UTC  

The National Guard is the reserve?

2018-09-21 12:25:43 UTC  

Kind of

2018-09-21 12:25:43 UTC  

The Civil Guard, is like the Italian *Carabineri* or French *Gendarmes*. It is more "paramilitary" branch of the police.

2018-09-21 12:26:05 UTC  

I dont think we really have that in the US

2018-09-21 12:26:21 UTC  

We have swat teams but those vary by city and county

2018-09-21 12:26:38 UTC  

They have jurisdiction in the control of Borders, Urban/Mountain areas, Coast and traffic. The National Police have jurisdiction in the Cities

2018-09-21 12:28:39 UTC  

While it was not amusing, it is interesting how the US people react to Secession done by other countries. It plays to well into American Narratives

2018-09-21 12:29:58 UTC  

Indeed, I've seen a lot of people, mostly Americans, draw parallels between the Catalonian and American independence movements. In my opinion they could not be more different

2018-09-21 12:31:05 UTC  

Americans love indepence

2018-09-21 12:31:15 UTC  

🇺🇸

2018-09-21 12:34:38 UTC  

I can imagine yeah, given that's how they were born as a nation

2018-09-21 12:38:47 UTC  

...

2018-09-21 12:49:05 UTC  

Holy shit, don't read the comments section. Pure cancer.

2018-09-21 12:49:40 UTC  

I wont

2018-09-21 12:49:57 UTC  

thank you for doing the jobs no one

2018-09-21 12:50:00 UTC  

else wants

2018-09-21 12:52:42 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/492679568759717907/Screenshot_2018-09-21-05-52-35.png

2018-09-21 12:56:13 UTC  

"right side of history"

2018-09-21 12:56:21 UTC  

Oh we are on the right....