Their involvement in the Yemeni civil war, blatant human rights abuses, and lack of rights for women in their country shows that they're not improving

How is the west allied to these people, of course oil is the answer

just comes to show our hypocrisy

yea, they are a shit counrty that if was gone tomorrow has been a net improvement of the world at lage. and Oil is usually the answer in a lot of politics

```Petroleum was discovered on 3 March 1938 and followed up by several other finds in the Eastern Province.[20] Saudi Arabia has since become the world's largest oil producer and exporter, controlling the world's second largest oil reserves and the sixth largest gas reserves.[21] The kingdom is categorized as a World Bank high-income economy with a high Human Development Index[22] and is the only Arab country to be part of the G-20 major economies.[23] The state has attracted criticism for its treatment of women and use of capital punishment.[24] Saudi Arabia is a monarchical autocracy,[25][26] has the fourth highest military expenditure in the world[27][28] and SIPRI found that Saudi Arabia was the world's second largest arms importer in 2010–2014.[29] Saudi Arabia is considered a regional and middle power.[30] In addition to the GCC, it is an active member of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation and OPEC.[31] ```

```In 1916, with the encouragement and support of Britain (which was fighting the Ottomans in World War I), the Sharif of Mecca, Hussein bin Ali, led a pan-Arab revolt against the Ottoman Empire to create a united Arab state.[88] Although the Arab Revolt of 1916 to 1918 failed in its objective, the Allied victory in World War I resulted in the end of Ottoman suzerainty and control in Arabia.[89]```

what is now Saudi Arabia was left for the Arabian tribes to fight over, where eventually the house of Saad took over and conquered the tribes forming Saudi Arabia

The British and the French only took over through mandates what is now, Syria, Palestine, Iraq, Lebanon and Israel

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4578716/Apologists-terror-Corbyn-McDonnell-Abbott.html

https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/10/diplomatic-rift-after-france-dumps-migrants-into-italy-illegally

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Saudi chose the correct side in the Yemeni War. The Houthi are terrible why would you not oppose them? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houthi_movement

@Capitán Alatriste

I'm not supporting their enemies, since they're sided with Iran. But Saudi Arabia's indiscriminate bombing of civilians and other assorted war crimes isn't something to be looked over

Yemen has become a proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia to see who is the dominant Muslim power from each sect

and?

The Houthi are basically the original ISIS, and war is war

Both are shitty

But atleast in Iran, there’s a good amount of resistance against the regime

War is not some clean game where you dont get dirty.

Civilians die

Children die

Bombs are not smart, they are indiscriminate.

Also "war crimes" is a fucking joke of a term and i dont respect it

War is when all rules go out the window

It’s why the geneva convention is the most useless thing ever

War is a struggle between two irreconcilable wills. You must break the enemy´s will as quickly as possible if you do not want more suffering.

Bombing civilians has proven to do the opposite

I think it’s also important not to repeat the constant failure of leaving your enemy as your enemy

You should always try to reconcile so future war could be avoided

Which is one of the main reasons for the EU's existence

I would like "evidence" of the intent to bomb civilians for the sake of bombing civilians

Accidental civilian death in course of a legitimate bombing is not a war crime

https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/status/1052220340431192064

Also, the idea of a 'crime' is that you are being held accountable to a court of law above yourself.

Saudi Arabia has no such thing.

Ok I have to agree with Paul here tho to go to war is to declare that you intend to eliminate a threat only after world war 1 did anyone even care about civvies, up until that point most countries did “war crimes”

War crimes and 'civilians' are a modern invention and byproduct of professional armies relieving the responsibility of national defense from the citizenry

(You may reuse that quote.)

I mean in a lot of these countries there’s a larger population that doesn’t fight but I’d imagine if the us was attacked everyone would be frothing for a fight