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2018-10-25 01:23:05 UTC  

^This guy thinks they were to retarded

2018-10-25 01:32:34 UTC  

I mean they had the same amount of time as the rest of the world to invent stuff... and stayed at lower than Bronze Age.

2018-10-25 01:33:43 UTC  

In Guns, Germs and Steel it’s explained that that is due to many factors

2018-10-25 01:33:48 UTC  

ehhhhhhhhh

2018-10-25 01:33:48 UTC  

Most of them geographical

2018-10-25 01:34:01 UTC  

Guns Germs and steel is a good start

2018-10-25 01:34:16 UTC  

I think the reason most societies evolved well is because they learned to produce enough food

2018-10-25 01:34:26 UTC  

For the society as a whole to progress

2018-10-25 01:34:50 UTC  

If you have enough food, then you don’t need every individual from the tribe to go hunting or fishing or whatever

2018-10-25 01:35:34 UTC  

At that moment, the tribe organizes itself into a hierarchy capable of defending itself from other tribes

2018-10-25 01:36:36 UTC  

And you get urban-agricultural societies in which you have a town with farms surrounding it, with a farming class that produces food for the whole town

2018-10-25 01:36:53 UTC  

And the soldier class protecting the farmers from outside threats

2018-10-25 01:37:33 UTC  

When there isn’t any fertile ground or agricultural method to make plenty of food, you retain a hunter-gatherer society

2018-10-25 01:37:39 UTC  

Where every day people scrape for food

2018-10-25 01:37:46 UTC  

I think the reason the west succeeded where other people failed is complicated

2018-10-25 01:37:59 UTC  

but it starts with the idea of a rational logical god

2018-10-25 01:38:08 UTC  

and the world conforms to that concept

2018-10-25 01:38:09 UTC  

It’s mostly luck that we had certain individuals come up with good ideas

2018-10-25 01:38:23 UTC  

Like the steam engine or other stuff like that

2018-10-25 01:38:44 UTC  

Rational god=Rational consistent measurable universe

2018-10-25 01:38:58 UTC  

Or the French Revolution, where a crazy idea was put into practice

2018-10-25 01:39:06 UTC  

...

2018-10-25 01:39:14 UTC  

And through a lot of shit, made way for broad democratization in the long term

2018-10-25 01:39:17 UTC  

Across the globe

2018-10-25 01:39:20 UTC  

The french revolution was a horrible condition

2018-10-25 01:39:36 UTC  

Bastile day is a lie

2018-10-25 01:39:53 UTC  

True, but the idea of the people ruling themselves and not a godgiven monarch was an insane idea at the time

2018-10-25 01:40:39 UTC  

That was not what happened

2018-10-25 01:40:53 UTC  

People do not "rule" themselves

2018-10-25 01:41:06 UTC  

I think i worded it wrongly

2018-10-25 01:41:09 UTC  

I meant to say

2018-10-25 01:41:22 UTC  

The people electing officials to govern in their name

2018-10-25 01:41:27 UTC  

Popular sovereignty

2018-10-25 01:41:39 UTC  

Republicanism and aristocracy balanced makes a better society

2018-10-25 01:41:55 UTC  

more absolute democracy is a mob

2018-10-25 01:41:57 UTC  

The third estate effectively running the country

2018-10-25 01:42:16 UTC  

Absolute direct democracy might be a noble idea on paper but it doesnt work

2018-10-25 01:42:21 UTC  

Look at ancient athens

2018-10-25 01:42:26 UTC  

I agree

2018-10-25 01:42:32 UTC  

Every day they had to drag people out of their houses

2018-10-25 01:42:42 UTC  

The punishment for not participating was a fine