that's after

but while it's still going on

It's called outcome if it's after something...

This is utilitarian thinking, which gave us Neo-Libs

what if in order to end starvation in the world we decide to castrate everyone that can't 100% afford a family?

would you agree with that

No because most of them come from a point where governing the people is something that needs to continue. But what I'm trying to say is that there exists ways people can live together without it. It's just that it's not easy to get there and it would not be good for a lot of people.

@Ondsinet Why would you need to castrate them?

It's a hypothetical

so they don't have kids that end up starving, to reduce suffering

Not sure how to answer that question correctly. I could only give my point of view.

*What gives you the moral authority to remove suffering from peoples lives?

And who are you to define suffering for other people?*

I can't define something that's already defined.

I really hate neolibs lol

Why do you call me that?

Utilitarianism

I like Hitler the best of all the leaders we have had in the later days.
In the early days I like Jesus.

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How does that make me a neolib?

it's quite the leap

Ofc.

People made quite a leap.

Hitler did amazing things.

Animal rights.

what is your idea of a great or near perfect society? how do people live etc. ?
it might help us understand exactly where you are coming from

In one sentence.

In the perfect society I can leave my child with anyone and be sure that my child will be taken care of until I get back.

hmm

can't happen

See

In my society, that makes you a piece of shit lol

human nature is too fucked up

Can't blame it on human nature. All you have to go on 100% is the man in the mirror.

I like my man in the mirror.

He could live in my perfect society.

Why would you be such a POS as to hand off your responsibility to someone else for a short time?

haa

Made me laugh.

Is it a serious question?

Yes

wow..