Message from @A disgruntled scientist

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2018-12-15 22:16:47 UTC  

I never said that.

2018-12-15 22:17:03 UTC  

a lot of tarded people want to be taken care of and others to be taken care of too

2018-12-15 22:17:14 UTC  

Like my future ex-girlfriend

2018-12-15 22:17:14 UTC  

Betty, 17 could rule the world for all I care. If she on paper was the smartest and best choice.

2018-12-15 22:17:31 UTC  

define best

2018-12-15 22:17:31 UTC  

That doesn't answer my question

2018-12-15 22:18:03 UTC  

Well, wanting to have as little suffering as you can in the world is a good "best".

2018-12-15 22:18:04 UTC  

I just said smart people want socialism, and you want smart people to run the world.

Therefore, you want socialism.

2018-12-15 22:18:39 UTC  

You're not really in a discussion mode here @Fitzydog It's more of an attack and counter talk.

2018-12-15 22:18:51 UTC  

So I really don't know how to answer you.

2018-12-15 22:19:22 UTC  

like i said before, it's too big of a job
i'll leave it that

2018-12-15 22:19:38 UTC  

>Well, wanting to have as little suffering as you can in the world is a good "best".

2018-12-15 22:19:39 UTC  

Fair enough.

2018-12-15 22:19:52 UTC  

can you detect the fallacy?

2018-12-15 22:20:05 UTC  

Not really. Elaborate?

2018-12-15 22:20:15 UTC  

Is it bad to not want suffering in the world?

2018-12-15 22:20:27 UTC  

how do you decide what is the best outcome?

2018-12-15 22:20:47 UTC  

Define the situation.

2018-12-15 22:20:55 UTC  

Best outcome of what exactly?

2018-12-15 22:21:00 UTC  

Governing?

2018-12-15 22:21:04 UTC  

Suffering?

2018-12-15 22:21:10 UTC  

of a single person governing the entire world?

2018-12-15 22:21:16 UTC  

based on iq

2018-12-15 22:21:35 UTC  

Best outcome imo would be that we after his or her term don't have governance anymore.

2018-12-15 22:21:56 UTC  

ok

2018-12-15 22:21:59 UTC  

that's after

2018-12-15 22:22:09 UTC  

but while it's still going on

2018-12-15 22:22:14 UTC  

It's called outcome if it's after something...

2018-12-15 22:22:24 UTC  

This is utilitarian thinking, which gave us Neo-Libs

2018-12-15 22:23:28 UTC  

what if in order to end starvation in the world we decide to castrate everyone that can't 100% afford a family?

2018-12-15 22:23:35 UTC  

would you agree with that

2018-12-15 22:23:41 UTC  

No because most of them come from a point where governing the people is something that needs to continue. But what I'm trying to say is that there exists ways people can live together without it. It's just that it's not easy to get there and it would not be good for a lot of people.

2018-12-15 22:24:11 UTC  

@Ondsinet Why would you need to castrate them?

2018-12-15 22:24:19 UTC  

It's a hypothetical

2018-12-15 22:24:28 UTC  

so they don't have kids that end up starving, to reduce suffering

2018-12-15 22:25:17 UTC  

Not sure how to answer that question correctly. I could only give my point of view.

2018-12-15 22:25:22 UTC  

*What gives you the moral authority to remove suffering from peoples lives?

And who are you to define suffering for other people?*

2018-12-15 22:25:39 UTC  

I can't define something that's already defined.

2018-12-15 22:25:58 UTC  

I really hate neolibs lol

2018-12-15 22:26:07 UTC  

Why do you call me that?

2018-12-15 22:26:14 UTC  

Utilitarianism