Sounds like doublespeak

He says that he can't take their right to express theit views, but holding a referendum would show opinioms based on very current and temporary crises

as long it not in conflict with the values of the EU, if you say something else gestapo will come and have a talk with you

@Nordhand That is the leftist way - keep voting until they get the vote that they want

and then we never going let you vote when we get what we want

it is the leftist way

wasn't there a German couple that got arrested for a migrant critical Facebook group?

@turtwig This is fine in the EU. Isn't that right, @Capitán Alatriste?

So are blasphemy laws in Austria

but fitzy, they were being *nazis* duh

Ahh of course.

But isn't everyone a Nazi?

at this point yea

I'm just waiting for the cognitive dissonance of the Spaniard to show up again

and the migration pact criminalises criticising migration?

idk a lot about that one tho

you all are talking about subjects that have already been co-opted by leftist subversion of your respective governments

It's like the American Civil Rights act on steroids

Calling him a spainard would imply that he likes his country

@Fitzydog what is fine?

He would sell it out to the EU in a heartbeat

@Capitán Alatriste Blasphemy laws and criminalized speech

Of course it's not

So why do you still defend this shit?

The EU does nothing better that individual agreements couldn't do as well

I'm not defending these things

I never have

I defend the European Economic project of free trade of people, capital and goods. An integtrated European bloc

to bad that EU is dead, the current EU is the creation of a European super state that is run by a uber class of unelected nobles

ein volk ein reich ein führer

I wonder what will happen once the EU finally collapses

Not unelected. The EU is a representative democracy by which you directly elect your MEPs, these in turn elect the president of the EU parliament. The EU commission composed of the all PMs of eacg EU state, which you directly elect, elect the president of the EU commission

it's the United States of Europe

Yes

have you seen our congressional approval rating lately?

it wouldn't surprise me if it drops into single digits

our representatives are "elected" the same way that the EU's representatives are "elected" .... more like "(s)elected"

the CIA actually had/has former (probably current only we don't know about it) employees running as democrats in several congressional districts here...around 50 I think?

I think we've either gone or are going past Orwellian in this world.... between the shit China is doing, to what the CIA/NSA does.... absolutely fucked

EU as a whole

the French are correct in their response to Macron

the yellow vests are correct