Message from @Thomas the Sowell Train [USA]
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This time, include an explanatory clause that says "fuck communism" in however many words.
In fact, we should get one of those in *our* constitution.
I disagree, that would prevent freedom of political expression and affiliation.
It would be convenient yes
But then the same rule is used elsewhere, because precedent.
Which is why I hate precedent.
I'm perfectly okay with barring communists from holding political office, their ideology is in stark contrast to our entire system of government.
Explicitly so.
Their ideas are already literally unconstitutional through and through.
So having a law that bars communists from office is quite simply a protection of the republic and constitution, but that has nothing to do with "freedom of expression" regarding the rights of citizens.
So what about the right to run for public office?
Slope is more slippery than convenient.
You're not allowed to buy a gun if you tell the seller you plan to kill someone with it.
Same concept.
So you can if you just don't say itl then kill someone later.
Right.
But it's still illegal to kill someone, just like if we found out you were a commie you'd get the boot.
So you can be a communist, just not while running. Only once elected.
nooo
Also remember McCarthyism.
The laws should simply recognize what is already true, that allegiance to communism violates the constitutional oath.
Easy to call someone a communist
Yes but if you accuse someone of murder without evidence, you can get in quite a lot of trouble yourself.
Plus this would give commies a legitimate grievance. Besides. If everyone votes to be communist, then hey, their choice.
So what? At least they can't hold office.
It's the law.
And that is ignoring the will of the people.
this isn't a democracy
it's a republic
Law is predicated upon their will
And theoretically, you can say anything is the will of the people, but that has nothing to do with what is right and what is wrong.
I'm saying it would be right to bar communists from holding offices in government.
What you propose violates several God given rights. Also, if the people want to be wrong, they are allowed to.
You have the right to bear arms, but if you threaten to kill somebody with the gun you are being sold, you are not to be sold that gun.
Trust me when I say most Venezuelans would approve an American intervention
Youre making me defend commies man, this sucks
Doesn't make it right.
As I said before, the state should not be the one to fix Venezuela, it should have a minor role that encourages market forces and charity to do the work.
Self-determination means the freedom to make mistakes.
Venezuelans have to fix venezuela
exactly