Message from @Aldoggo

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2019-01-24 10:08:56 UTC  

So you can if you just don't say itl then kill someone later.

2019-01-24 10:09:23 UTC  

Right.

2019-01-24 10:09:42 UTC  

But it's still illegal to kill someone, just like if we found out you were a commie you'd get the boot.

2019-01-24 10:09:48 UTC  

So you can be a communist, just not while running. Only once elected.

2019-01-24 10:09:54 UTC  

nooo

2019-01-24 10:10:35 UTC  

Also remember McCarthyism.

2019-01-24 10:10:43 UTC  

The laws should simply recognize what is already true, that allegiance to communism violates the constitutional oath.

2019-01-24 10:10:53 UTC  

Easy to call someone a communist

2019-01-24 10:11:57 UTC  

Yes but if you accuse someone of murder without evidence, you can get in quite a lot of trouble yourself.

2019-01-24 10:12:21 UTC  

Plus this would give commies a legitimate grievance. Besides. If everyone votes to be communist, then hey, their choice.

2019-01-24 10:13:09 UTC  

So what? At least they can't hold office.

2019-01-24 10:13:17 UTC  

It's the law.

2019-01-24 10:13:40 UTC  

And that is ignoring the will of the people.

2019-01-24 10:13:50 UTC  

this isn't a democracy

2019-01-24 10:13:52 UTC  

it's a republic

2019-01-24 10:13:56 UTC  

Law is predicated upon their will

2019-01-24 10:14:55 UTC  

And theoretically, you can say anything is the will of the people, but that has nothing to do with what is right and what is wrong.

2019-01-24 10:15:13 UTC  

I'm saying it would be right to bar communists from holding offices in government.

2019-01-24 10:15:28 UTC  

What you propose violates several God given rights. Also, if the people want to be wrong, they are allowed to.

2019-01-24 10:15:56 UTC  

You have the right to bear arms, but if you threaten to kill somebody with the gun you are being sold, you are not to be sold that gun.

2019-01-24 10:15:58 UTC  

Trust me when I say most Venezuelans would approve an American intervention

2019-01-24 10:16:10 UTC  

Youre making me defend commies man, this sucks

2019-01-24 10:16:10 UTC  

Doesn't make it right.

2019-01-24 10:16:58 UTC  

As I said before, the state should not be the one to fix Venezuela, it should have a minor role that encourages market forces and charity to do the work.

2019-01-24 10:17:01 UTC  

Self-determination means the freedom to make mistakes.

2019-01-24 10:17:45 UTC  

Venezuelans have to fix venezuela

2019-01-24 10:17:49 UTC  

exactly

2019-01-24 10:18:00 UTC  

the state needs to step aside, not take an interventionist lead

2019-01-24 10:18:04 UTC  

The problem is that with Maduro and his people they can't

2019-01-24 10:18:07 UTC  

yep

2019-01-24 10:18:15 UTC  

But they can't without a basic economy

2019-01-24 10:18:23 UTC  

And if the military does jackshit they're fucked

2019-01-24 10:18:45 UTC  

Yeah

2019-01-24 10:19:03 UTC  

Though loyalties sound undetermined for military

2019-01-24 10:19:04 UTC  

That's why interventionist might be needed

2019-01-24 10:19:50 UTC  

it all down to who the military sided with and if the US decides to come in from the side line

2019-01-24 10:20:04 UTC  

The problem is most higher ups are corrupt as well

2019-01-24 10:20:22 UTC  

We will offer humanitarian aod like food, I am sure

2019-01-24 10:20:26 UTC  

Aid

2019-01-24 10:21:32 UTC  

My fundamental belief is just that taxpayer dollars should always go towards national interests. Charity and humanitarian aid should come from donations. This keeps the government much more responsible with its use of funds.

2019-01-24 10:22:02 UTC  

Humanitarian causes sound nice, but they're prone to lots of corruptions.