Using force *is* the right solution, it's only a question of, "Against whom?"

Because we can't undo this mess. Too far gone.

You can't shoot soy boys

they are unarmed and defenseless

No, just the traitors they put into power.

@AlanPowell It is literally exactly what they want. They want division.

Divide and conquer.

They achieved division.

And conservatives don't seem to have any idea that that is what they want. They are okay with lumping all of the right into these people who "want us dead", but that's what the deep state wants you to think, that the other side is all just bad people who you shouldn't be willing to have a conversation with.

We want them to not be dicks.

And fair enough, an amount of them are impossible to talk to but that doesn't mean you can give up and lose the people who aren't that way.

We want them to quit telling us how to he virtuous.

That's all.

@galesteppes What's that Starship Troopers quote about force and rights?

If they want to debate economics or politics, cool. But they refuse.

nigga which one @Fitzydog

They don't *talk to us.*

Violence, force, ultimate authority etc

```“When you vote, you are exercising political authority, you're using force. And force, my friends, is violence. The supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived.”
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This one?

Yep

Yep

To be fair, it's not like the right does a very good job welcoming them in most of the time. Most of the time they're trying to embarrass the left and get gotchas.

You kidding me

Why should they?

The right is now the safehaven of the original left

Yeah but that's for people who are already convinced.

The liberals have come to the right to get away from those nutjobs

I'm talking about the people who still need disagreements hashed out.

They refuse to hash them.

If you still call yourself a leftist in 2019, you are an existential threat

You think we just yell into a void all day?

We habe tried SO HARD to communicate this insanity to the left but they have discredited us in their minds.

Even if they know we make sense, they also 'know' that it's 'wrong'.

50 years of losing ground? And you want us to lose some more? lol

The slow march of Progress knows no end

I don't know how to explain it. It just looks to me like the right is actually okay with the division at this point.

We've accepted them

They don't believe in love and Christ-like compassion anymore.

There is no common ground left. It's just gone. You have some that might come around sure. But there will always be those people. When are there too few of them left to justify doing nothing?

Because the left abuses the shit out of that compassion