Well the black market will always exist true. Hence why total bans are retarded. The punishment is rather stiff for felons and dv offenders found with firearms. In states that have such rules for felons. Its more of a "make it more difficult" than anything.

I think it is alright to establish certain channels to obtain firearms. This does not, in principle, obstruct you from getting a firearm. A ban is what I have a problem with.

You just have to be able, in theory, to get the guns.

I have reservations about the felons thing but then it is very obvious why you should not let them have a gun.

Yeah I dont think anyone would argue that some sort of rules on the market are appropriate. I mean if you're going to buy a howitzer you should at least have to prove you're old enough.

Yes

Or at least not batshit insane.

If you are sane enough to sign a contract you are sane e ough to buy a gun. If you are not sane enough to buy a gun, you really cannot be considered to be in full working order.

So probably shouldn't vote either

That's a fair argument. Though mental illness isn't always permeant. That's going to make it difficult to deal with. Also what's the limits on a "contract"? Crazy people can sign up for an internet plan. This is usually a type of contract.

What accounts for "sanity" varies. And yea sanity isnt really much of a limiter on contracts.

These are the only things that prevent competency for contracts:
One is considered mentally ill if the person suffers from:

Schizophrenia
Senility
Alzheimer's disease
Retardation
Chronic drug or alcohol dependency

And the last one is the hardest to prove. So is usually limited to under the influence. But i could easily see it being interpreted to all forms

Retardation is also a gradiant basis.

And being male if you listen to the APA....

^ basically.

Since these basis are based on APA definitions, ee also have that issue.

Well you don't usually permanently label someone unfit

You continue to evaluate

If you get discharge from the military for mental reasons you will get a permanent record of it in Norway that will block you to get a weapon in the future

The same happens in the states. It can also cost you a security clearance.

And is a common reason for removing custody from veterans during divorce disputes.

Post death, concious, genesis, cause of the universe all have moved to perview of religion. All huge grey areas that science may never know the answer

I do not consider science incapable of answering questions about things that religion typically claim are beyond the material. I think religious people tend to make up things to explain experiences or occurrences they do not fully understand.

Science does not do this

@Segfault198 it doesnt ban you from gun purchase.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment

also, the bit about evolution being just a "theory", just speaks to the confusion that the word itself sparks. Gravity is also a theory

a scientific "theory" is different to how the word "theory" is used in day to day language

@Mal science doesnt because of whay it is. But it also doesnt tend to lean towards the areas religion holds. Why? Because science is dominated by materialists. As well science isnt a bastion of purity. Politics and psuedoscience runs rampent.

I suppose you're setting this whole "materialist" term up as an opposite to the unknowable "spiritualist" that religion somehow has authority over?

It is "theory" due to the holes still present. Gravity is a law.

Newton's law of universal gravitation

what are these holes in the theory of evolution?

Its mostly where some traits came to be, and missing links in the paths.

ah yes, the missing links

But its enough to prevent it from becoming a law.

There are no "missing links".

Doesn't that only apply to humans?

Im fairly certain we've traced the evolutionary paths of other species pretty clearly.

There are tons of missing links. Hell we are still discovering many species. And many species are changing.

There are no "missing links" because evolution doesn't just happen over night. It's a gradual change that takes a large amount of time.